This C3 Pathways Podcast series discusses Active Shooter Incident Management (ASIM). The Podcast features instructors and special guests discussing key elements and challenges of Active Shooter Incident Management and the implications for law enforcement, fire, and EMS responders. The bad guy and the clock both kill innocent victims. Don't miss the opportunity to gain key insights that may help you save lives!
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Ep 101: Overcoming Resistance To Change
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In today’s episode our panelists discuss the challenges of implementing change in emergency response protocols. The episode delves into common obstacles faced by change agents within organizations and offers insights on overcoming resistance. Key topics covered include: *Communication barriers between agencies during crisis events *The importance o…
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Ep 100: Mastering Reunification Part 2
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In today’s podcast we continue the discussion with John-Michael Keyes, Stacy Avila, and Kevin Burd from the I Love U Guys Foundation about the Standard Reunification Method (SRM) and its complementary nature to the School Safety and Violent Event Incident Management (SSAVEIM) courses. Reunification is a complex process that requires thorough planni…
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Ep 99: Mastering Reunification Part 1
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In today’s podcast we discuss the importance of reunification training and exercises for schools and public safety organizations. John-Michael Keyes, Stacy Avila, and Kevin Burd from the I Love U Guys Foundation speak with Bill Godfrey, focusing on their respective approaches to reunification training. The podcast highlights the complementary natur…
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Ep 98: Crisis Communication Strategies
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Join us for a discussion on crisis communication strategies for large-campus environments. Our expert panel delves into the critical aspects of keeping people safe and informed during emergencies in schools, hospitals, malls, and other high-traffic venues. Highlights include: The power of "plain speak" in emergency situations Cutting-edge alert sys…
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Ep 97: When Thinking Negatively is Positive
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In today’s episode our panel explores the power of "inverted thinking" in emergency response planning and management. This episode delves into how focusing on potential negative outcomes can actually lead to better preparation and decision-making during critical incidents. Key points include: • The natural tendency for emergency responders to antic…
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Ep 96: Active Shooter Data and Trends
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Episode 96 delves into the topic of active shooter data and trends, offering valuable insights for first responders and emergency management professionals. This episode provides an analysis of current active shooter statistics, response strategies, and the importance of data-driven decision-making in crisis situations. Key highlights include: Data …
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Ep 95: Becoming A Great Instructor
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In this podcast, we delve into the essential elements that transform good instructors into great ones, drawing insights from John-Michael Keyes and the I Love U Guys Foundation. Key topics covered: Preparation and Practice The importance of thorough rehearsal and material mastery Techniques for effective self-recording and review Time management st…
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Ep 94: The Role Of Armed Citizen
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In this episode, our panel discusses the complex role of armed citizens in active threat situations. Key points include: • The potential benefits and risks of armed citizen intervention • The critical importance of proper training and ongoing skill maintenance • Legal and ethical considerations for carrying and using firearms • Proper interaction w…
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Ep 93: The "I Love U Guys" Foundation 2024
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The panel discusses how the foundation started, how it has grown to over 50,000 schools, agencies and organizations, and where it is headed in the future. They take a look at the mission, the messaging, the training, the instructors and so much more. “The “I love U Guys” Foundation was started in 2006 by Ellen and John-Michael Keyes following a sch…
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Ep 92: Area Command - What Is It And When Do I Need It?
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When multiple events affect a community there will be a competition for resources. The best way to manage this scenario is with Area Command. In today’s podcast, our panel discusses when Area Command is needed, what they do, and who is involved. View this episode on YouTube at https://youtu.be/pyhMLag6F8Y…
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When is it appropriate for law enforcement to transport a patient? What does it really mean to get definitive care? In today’s podcast, our panel explore these topics as well as law enforcement’s understanding of the role of EMS. It’s not just about how fast they reach the hospital – it’s about getting trained resources to the patient’s side. View …
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Ep 90: What Are The Challenges Of Breaching?
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It’s a simple premise: the door is locked, and we need to get in. The challenges lie in the methods we use to gain entry. From the availability of tools to training, the use of KnoxBoxes, fire inspectors, and handling glass windows, our panel discusses the challenges of breaching. They explore how building relationships and integrating training bet…
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Ep 89: Witness or Defendant Decided by Actions? - A Listener Question
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Today, we address a listener’s question about the consequences for police officers making mistakes during an active shooter response. Responders must rely on objective reasonableness encompassing safety priorities, policies, procedures, and training, to provide a standard of care. View this episode on YouTube at https://youtu.be/xGnGOmA2Mjo…
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Ep 88: Basic Tactics for All Responders
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During an Active Shooter Event, you might find yourself in an unfamiliar location or working with agencies and officers you don’t know. In today’s episode, our panel discusses some of the basic knowledge needed for Tactical, Triage, and Transport to work together to ensure decisions are made correctly, quickly, and accurately. View this episode on …
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Ep 87: Critical Perimeter Functions
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In today’s podcast, our panel discusses the crucial responsibilities of the perimeter group in maintaining control and keeping things from going sideways. Establishing an inner perimeter, to contain the bad actors, and an outer perimeter, to keep others from entering, and keep control of the scene. View this episode on YouTube at https://youtu.be/4…
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Ep 86: Injured Hostage Equals Active Killing
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Our goal in an active shooter event is to stop the killing and stop the dying. If the shooting has stopped, but there are injured individuals in need of medical care being held hostage, is that still active killing? Today, Bill Godfrey, Billy Perry and Pete Kelting discuss this sensitive topic. Without the benefit of hindsight, decisions must be ba…
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Ep 85: Common Misconceptions Revisited
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Back in 2018 we identified seven common misconceptions about Active Shooter Incident Management, ranging from excessive focus on neutralizing the threat to a lack of integration across disciplines. Today we will revisit these topics to assess our progress and identify areas that still need improvement. We will also examine new misconceptions that h…
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Ep 84: What Happens After Reunification?
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An active shooter event impacts not only the survivors but the entire community. While reunification is a crucial part of the response process, on-going needs must be addressed for the community to recover. Engaging in conversations in advance can help us better manage the aftermath. View this episode on YouTube at https://youtu.be/i2zyq53_SAo…
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Ep 83: Stepping up as Team Leader
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If you are one of the first arriving officers at an active shooter incident, you may have to step up as team leader. You’ll be making critical decisions to accomplish the mission. You can prepare for leadership, just as you prepare for entry – put yourself in the role and plan how you would handle it. View this episode on YouTube at https://youtu.b…
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Ep 82: Transport Group Supervisor
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The Transport Group Supervisor is responsible for more than just calling ambulances and getting them to the scene. In today’s episode we discuss the issues that arise when considering ambulance exchange points and transportation and the need for collaboration with tactical and triage. View this episode on YouTube at https://youtu.be/GwRFhW7yHrg…
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Ep 81: Contact Team Negotiator
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During an active shooter event, our primary focus is to stop the killing, but when the suspect is no longer actively killing people or preventing you from treating the wounded, sometimes negotiations need to begin – and that job may fall to the contact team. In today’s episode, the panel discusses safety priorities, situational awareness, best prac…
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Not every Active Shooter event unfolds in the same way. When there’s a deviation from the norm, the potential for something to go wrong increases. Our response training needs to be adaptable and inventive to address diverse scenarios. In today’s episode our panel discusses the need for training in various types of scenarios to meet the main objecti…
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Ep 79: When Communications Fail
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When resources are coming from multiple directions, sometimes communications fail. Training for these failures, making a plan in advance, and finding solutions to these technology issues is critical to getting the information out and the mission on track. Today’s episode looks at various ways to work around radio transmission issues. View this epis…
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In the aftermath of an active shooter incident, what can a civilian on the scene do to help? In today’s podcast, our panel delves into the steps civilians can take to help first responders on the scene, from compliance and providing information, to offering first aid support. View this episode on YouTube at https://youtu.be/MUpRVrjKdcg…
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In an active shooter incident, a Rescue Task Force is a medical mission with a security component. RTF1, the first through the door, bears additional responsibilities. In today’s episode Tom Billington, Bill Godfrey, Kami Maertz, and Ron Otterbacher shine a light on both the fire and law enforcement duties of RTF1 and how they manage a casualty col…
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Ep 76: The Price Of Prevention
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How do you know what products will help solve your problems? When talking to security consultants how do you know what is right for you and your situation? How do you apply the right tool to the right environment? In today’s episode Bill Godfrey, Adam Pendley, and Billy Perry tackle these questions and more. View this episode on YouTube at https://…
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Ep 75: When The Response Stalls
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Reality doesn’t always unfold like our training. It can be chaotic and confusing and can stall anywhere in the process. Inaction can be contagious – but so can action. Today Bill Godfrey, Adam Pendley, and Billy Perry discuss how training and leadership can get you back on track. View this episode on YouTube at https://youtube.com/live/UTlGn8ozNAU…
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Ep 74: The Role of a School Resource Officer
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The mission of an SRO is direct threat intervention. Today we speak with Billy Perry and his approach to training and preparation for officers, administration, teachers, parents, and most importantly, STUDENTS. When this type of event occurs a controlled, disciplined, and methodical response can be achieved without causing additional trauma – if yo…
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In the typical scenario, Contact One has engaged the suspect, the shooting has ceased, yet time remains critical. It’s essential to secure the area, implement an immediate action plan, and attend to medical needs. This is where Contact Team Two plays a crucial role. In today’s discussion, Billy Perry and Adam Pendley emphasize the significance of C…
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Ep 72: Top 5 Public Misconceptions
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The public doesn’t always have a full understanding of what is involved in handling an Active Shooter Event. In today’s episode Bill Godfrey, Kami Maertz, Adam Pendley, and Mark Rhame debunk the top 5 misconceptions the public may hold regarding our response to these incidents. By establishing clear expectations and providing insights into our proc…
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Ep 71: When Injured Flee A Shooting
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Most Active Shooter Events are not Mass Casualty Incidents, but when they are you need to have a plan in place to deal with those who self-evacuate. Bill Godfrey, Mark Rhame, Kami Maertz, and Adam Pendley discuss the strategies and logistics needed to deal with patients who might not be in the hot or warm zones. View this episode on YouTube at http…
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Ep 70: Sometimes Tradition Has To Change
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Hard is hard for a reason – it doesn’t mean it’s not worth doing. Getting held back by tradition, management and others are often the reasons we fail to implement change. Join Bill Godfrey, Adam Penley, Kami Maertz and Mark Rhame as they discuss these three common obstacles to changing policies and procedures and offer ideas and examples of how to …
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Patient distribution, security concerns, reunification, media handling and even parking can easily overwhelm a hospital during a mass casualty event. Can we integrate our training and provide assistance? On this week’s podcast we’ll discuss how we, as Public Safety Officers, can assist our hospitals in the challenges they may encounter if faced wit…
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Ep 68: Known Bleeding vs Unknown Threats?
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90% of the time the active threat is over within 10 minutes. In today’s episode we tackle the question of when is it time to stop searching for an unknown threat and when is it time to start focusing on medical? When the bad actor has gone silent, it’s time to coordinate resources and stop the known bleeding. Watch this episode on YouTube at https:…
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EP: 67 Hosting ASIM Advanced Course
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Join us today as we delve into the ins and outs of hosting the ASIM Advanced course, covering facility needs and logistics. Discover the value of this training, its participants, and the rewards it brings. Ready to seize this opportunity? Visit c3pathways.com training section to request DHS funding and submit your request! Watch this episode on You…
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EP 66: Overcoming Obstacles Part 2
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Jill McElwee joins Bill Godfrey, Pete Kelting and Don Tuten in part two of the discussion on how and why to adapt to change. We’ll address some of the common reasons given as to why we can’t change including: That’s not the way we do it around here. We can’t get the other neighboring agencies to make the transition and do this as well. Everyone is …
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Ep 65: Overcoming Obstacles Part 1
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Today we start a discussion on why it’s important to train both sides and establish communication. Bill Godfrey, Pete Kelting and Don Tuten talk about the importance of joint training and building relationships prior to an incident. While responder agencies tend to be somewhat isolated, being open to adjusting your training provides a skill set and…
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Ep 64: Cluster Fix: Strategies for Resolving Chaos
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Active Shooter Events can be chaotic and overwhelming, and things can go wrong. In today’s episode, we’ll examine some of the common areas where problems occur and give you tips on how to recognize these, recover from them, and get back on track. Spending 60 seconds fixing a problem now, can save you time in the long run. Watch this episode on YouT…
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Today we touch upon some common occurrences in Active Shooter Events where follow-on 911 calls report additional shooters in differently locations but in reality are not accurate. These calls -- though well intended -- often result in duplicate work, wasted resources, or over-response to a new location. Active Shooter Events have one shooter 97% of…
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Ep 62: A Teenager's Perspective on Active Shooter Events
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This episode gives us unique insight to the minds of high school students on the topic of Active Shooter Events, what they think about preparedness and procedures schools follow, and discussion of surprisingly insightful tactical thoughts. Ryan also shares a very up close and personal experience with an incident that happened to him at his school. …
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A law enforcement listener asks: "Could you guys do a podcast about the naming of positions, particularly tactical? Our fire department has a big issue with the radio ID of tactical being used instead of the radio ID of command for that position until the cold zone command post is stood up and that title is transferred to the incident commander. I …
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There is no standard triage system in the United States. S.T.A.R.T. is most common triage system in use, but there are many. Join Jill McElwee, Ron Otterbacher, and Bill Godfrey as the discuss common triage gaps, mistakes, and how things are different in Active Shooter Events. Don't miss the Trappings of Triage! Watch this episode on YouTube at htt…
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Ep 59: Top 5 ASIM Misconceptions
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In this episode we debunk five of the biggest misconceptions of Active Shooter Incident Management. Pete Kelting, Don Tuten, Jill McElwee, and Bill Godfrey set the record straight with detailed explanations, facts, and statistics. The number one may shock you -- don't miss this episode! View this episode on our YouTube channel at https://www.youtub…
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Adam Pendley, Mark Rhame, Don Tuten, and Bill Godfrey discuss the Active Shooter Incident Management model policy (available for free download from the C3 Pathways website) along with common implementation challenges and trying to get multiple agencies on board. You do not want to miss this conversation. Download the ASIM Model Policy as an MS Word…
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Ep 57: The Key to Success in Active Shooter Response
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NEW! Watch this show on YouTube at https://youtube.com/live/EV0xRrmByK8 Podcast Host Bill Godfrey is joined by Mark Rhame, Adam Pendley, and Don Tuten to discuss "The Key to Success" in an active shooter event. Their answer may surprise many, but it centers around making sure every responder arriving at the scene has a task and purpose. Whether you…
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Ep 56: Learning From Battlefield Trauma
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NEW! Watch this show on YouTube at https://youtube.com/live/t2Qhoz7WTg4 Bill Godfrey, Jill McElwee, and Ron Otterbacher discuss valuable medical insights from battlefield experiences which can be applied to active shooter scenarios. The trio takes a deep dive with easy to understand explanations about the value of using the military’s BATH assessme…
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NEW! Watch this show on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaVr4fSJHLU Bill Godfrey, Ron Otterbacher, and Jill McElwee discussed the challenges of terminology and the importance of simplifying it in a potentially chaotic active shooter incident. We must use straightforward terms that everyone understands and limit conversations between Comm…
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Ep 54: When Attackers Go Mobile
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NEW! Watch this show on YouTube at https://youtube.com/live/9DR97VXLPmI Bill Godfrey: Welcome to the Active Shooter Incident Management Podcast. My name is Bill Godfrey, your podcast host. Thank you for being with us today. I am being joined by Adam Pendley, here to my left, from the law enforcement side. Adam, thanks for coming in. Adam Pendley: T…
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Ep 53: Don't Overcomplicate It
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NEW! Watch this show on YouTube at https://youtube.com/live/N2B8yMdlueo Bill Godfrey: Welcome to the Active Shooter Incident Management podcast. My name is Bill Godfrey, your podcast host, and I am joined today by two of our fantastic C3 Pathways instructors. Sitting next to me is Jill McElwee, like myself also on the Fire and EMS side. And across …
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Ep 52: Rescue Task Force - Common Challenges and Expectations
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NEW! Watch this show on YouTube at https://youtube.com/live/iXHgu7zomfo Bill Godfrey: Welcome to the Active Shooter Incident Management Podcast. My name is Bill Godfrey, your podcast host. I am joined today by three of our wonderful C3 Pathways instructors. On my right here is Tom Billington, one of our Fire/EMS instructors. Welcome, Tom. Tom Billi…
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