Talking about money is hard. All over the world, people are taught never to talk about money, politics, sex or religion in polite company. On 50 Fires: A Podcast About Money and Meaning from Executive Producers Chip and Joanna Gaines, host and financial conversationalist Carl Richards will remove money from that list by having frank, funny, and often difficult conversations about money - the kind we were all told not to have! - with guests from all walks of life. In each episode, Carl will i ...
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Krista Tippett Explores The Relationship Between Money and Tension
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Krista Tippett is an icon of reflection and moral imagination. As the creator and host of the radio program On Being, Krista’s voice has been a steadying for millions of listeners over the years, guiding conversations about life’s biggest questions, and inviting us to think more deeply. Krista and Carl venture into the complex and often messy relat…
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Kara Swisher Is Unemotional About Money
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Kara Swisher joins Carl for a wide-ranging conversation about money and meaning - from her early experiences with money to observing the habits of influential billionaires up close. If you’re not already familiar with Kara, her reputation precedes her: she’s direct, honest, and unapologetic about asking tough questions, especially to the wealthiest…
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What Can We Do When Things Feel Out of Control?
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How To Avoid Burnout with Former Tech Entrepreneur and Founder of Nervous System Mastery Jonny Miller
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What job have you given money, and is it realistic? Jonny Miller and Carl explore this question in a discussion that digs deeper into the meanings of wealth, ambition, and fulfillment. Jonny is the founder of the Nervous System Mastery program, providing high-performers - from the CEO of a rocket ship company to startup founders recovering from bur…
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Jerry Colonna’s Journey Through The Emotional Landscape of Money
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Jerry Colonna is a certified professional coach dedicated to the notion that better humans make better leaders. Drawing on his wide variety of experiences as a former venture capitalist and practicing Buddhist, Jerry and Carl explore the intricate relationship between money, emotions, and family ancestry. He shares personal anecdotes about his earl…
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Solving The Problem of Comparative Spending with David C. Baker
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David C. Baker is the author of multiple books, including “The Business of Expertise: How Entrepreneurial Experts Convert Insight To Impact + Wealth”. He’s a helicopter and airplane pilot, an avid photographer, and taught high performance motorcycle riding/racing. Based in Nashville, he has visited and worked all over the world. On this episode of …
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Sports Journalist Sarah Spain on Resisting Professional Comparison, Gender Parity in Sports, and Being Unapologetic About Living Life on Your Own Terms
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Sarah Spain is a veteran sports reporter who currently hosts “Good Game with Sarah Spain”, a daily podcast covering the biggest stories in women’s sports. Sarah and Carl discuss the challenges and realities of working in the sports industry, including the financial struggles and gender inequity that comes with it. Follow and Listen to "Good Game wi…
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Teenage Investor Chris Truong’s Best Tip? Investing Should Be Boring
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Teenage investor Chris Truong joins Carl to discuss why investing your money should be boring. At just 16 years old, Chris started a long-term diversified investing club at his high school - a club for ‘boring investment’, as he puts it - and it has grown from a club of 2 people - just him and his teacher - to over 40 of his peers. Chris emphasizes…
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Start “Doing Your Thing” with Author Ben Katt
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The world is a better place when we are all trying to do the thing that lights us up. Ben Katt shares his experience of following his intuition and making a job change to focus on writing a book and rebooting his meditation teaching practice while in his 40s. Ben recently authored a book called “The Way Home: Discovering the Hero’s Journey to Whole…
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Money, Family, and Meaningful Work with Jodi Kantor and Ron Lieber
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Jodi Kantor and Ron Lieber are both distinguished journalists at The New York Times, and today they join Carl to discuss the importance of financial stability for their family while pursuing work that is meaningful, both as individuals, and as a couple. Ron has been the “Your Money” columnist for The New York Times since 2008, and worked as the edi…
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Balancing Creative Freedom and Financial Stability with Brendan Leonard
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What does it truly mean to balance success with artistic integrity? Brendan Leonard, an artist and creative known for his humorous and thoughtful writing at Semi-Rad.com, shares his journey through the delicate balance of staying true to his creative vision and the pressures of mass appeal. This episode explores a familiar theme on 50 Fires: Why do…
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Learning How (And When) To Say ‘Yes’ With Economist Stephanie Kelton
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Stephanie Kelton is an American Economist, Academic, and a leading proponent of Modern Monetary Theory. She served as chief economist on the U.S. Senate Budget Committee in 2015, and POLITICO called her one of the 50 Most Influential Thinkers the year after. On this episode of 50 Fires, she joins Carl to share her own personal stories about money a…
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Getting Your Money In Alignment with Philosopher and Storyteller Peter Rollins
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Peter Rollins is an Irish philosopher, author, storyteller, producer and public speaker who has gained an international reputation for overturning traditional notions of religion and being in the world. Peter joins Carl to reflect on how we can align our lives more closely with our values, using money to enable that alignment. This wide ranging con…
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Comedian and Former Police Officer King Hassan on Finding Joy in Any Pursuit
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Comedian King Hassan has lived many lives - he’s a former police officer who somehow became a stand up comic and writer, now living in Los Angeles with his wife and three kids. He was born in Alabama to an American mother and Nigerian father, which led to often confusing and conflicting approaches to money, wealth, and identity. He and Carl discuss…
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The Essentials Of Money with Leadership Expert Greg McKeown
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Carl welcomes Greg McKeown, the author of two New York Times bestsellers “Effortless: Make It Easier to Do What Matters Most”, and “Essentialism: The Disciplined Pursuit of Less,” one of Carl’s favorite books. In this episode of 50 Fires, Greg and Carl discuss the concept of creating possibilities beyond money and why lack of capital should never b…
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Sharon Salzberg on Being Generous and Mindful with Your Money
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Sharon Salzberg is a meditation pioneer, world-renowned teacher, and New York Times bestselling author. In fact, if you’ve come across the word ‘mindfulness’ in the past decade, Sharon has had a lot to do with it (at least here in the United States). On this episode of 50 Fires, Sharon shares how her experiences in India and Burma shaped her as a c…
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Bonus Minisode: Everyone Has a Money Story
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Everyone has a meaningful story about money. What's yours? Start by answering this question: What's your earliest memory of money? Share yours by emailing Carl - hello@behaviorgap.com Email List: Sign up at https://www.50fires.com/ for our monthly email with resources for financial advisors! Follow 50 Fires on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/5…
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Meaningful Investing That Acutally Matters with Meb Faber
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If you’ve ever felt like the investment advice you get feels closer from sources like CNBC feels like gambling (AKA The Financial Pornography Network) and want to be thoughtful about investing, this episode of 50 Fires is a great place to start. Carl welcomes Meb Faber, a co-founder and the Chief Investment Officer of Cambria Investment Management.…
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Bonus Minisode: What Happens When The Money Runs Out?
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Have you ever found yourself gripped by the terrifying thought of your money running out? Join Carl in this bonus solo episode of 50 Fires, as he contemplates financial anxiety. Imagine if we viewed money not as a dwindling resource but as something more fluid and replenishable? This 'minisode' isn't just about financial strategies; it's an introsp…
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Living a Creative Life with Filmmaker and Songwriter Scott Ballew
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Scott Ballew is a filmmaker, singer, and songwriter who has taken a remarkable journey from directing adventure films for Yeti to releasing music as a solo artist starting in his late 30s. Carl explores Scott's upbringing in a modest household in Austin, Texas, where his family faced financial struggles but maintained a stable environment. Scott de…
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Former Drug Dealer, Professor, and Author J. Dana Trent
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Born to drug-dealing parents in rural Indiana, J. Dana Trent was a preschooler the first time she used a razor blade to cut up weed and fill dime bags for her schizophrenic father, King. This is the opening log line to her new memoir “Between Two Trailers”, and it is a wild story. She talks with Carl about the experience of hustling with her father…
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World Series Champion Dexter Fowler On Investing In Himself After a 14 Year Career in Major League Baseball
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When former Major League Baseball Player Dexter Fowler was drafted out of high school in 2004, he signed for $1 million dollars and immediately got a wealth advisor. He played 14 years in the league, and despite all of his success on the field, he attributes his success off the field to his parents, wife, and children. As Dexter explains to Carl in…
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Finding Financial Forgiveness with Trauma of Money Specialist Shannah Game
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Shannah Game and Carl have one important thing in common: they both love talking about money. Shannah, a Certified Financial Planner and Trauma of Money Specialist has been talking about money for a long time. As host of the podcast Everyone’s Talkin’ Money, Shannah’s goal is to help people see their money as a tool they can use to create they want…
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Dimensional Fund Advisors Co-Founder David Booth on The Birth of Modern Finance and Embracing Uncertainty in Investing
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The impact David Booth has had on your financial life is profound, whether you realize it or not. David is the co-founder of Dimensional Fund Advisors, a firm that fundamentally changed the way we make everyday decisions about practical investing and money. David knew the future of investing would depend on data, so in 1981 he moved a noisy, hot, r…
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Index Pioneer David Booth, Bestselling Author Greg McKeown, Meditation Guru Sharon Salzberg, and Much More!
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50 Fires returns with new episodes! Carl gets deep on money and what it means with Index Pioneer David Booth, Bestselling Author Greg McKeown, Meditation Guru Sharon Salzberg, and many more*: June 26: Dimensional Co-Founder David Booth July 03: Host of Everyone’s Talkin’ Money Shannah Game July 10: World Series Champion Dexter Fowler July 17: Bests…
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An Invitation From Carl: Share Your Own Conversations About Money
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50 Fires is taking a very short break to gear up for Season 2 with even more meaningful conversations about money. In this quick episode, Carl invites you to kindle your own enlightening discussions around money with a spouse, family member, or dear friend, and offers 5 simple, yet impactful steps to start these conversations: Look for time and spa…
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Journalist and Adventure Writer Daniel Duane on Changing Course and Becoming a Therapist in His Mid-50s
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Carl welcomes journalist, writer, surfer, climber, father and husband Daniel Duane to reflect on a life and career guided by passionate pursuits and what happens when that career suddenly seems unviable. The conversation raises questions about the meaning of a simpler life and how to navigate the complexities of money in the present as the cost of …
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Farnoosh Torabi - What her parents taught her about money, and why she’s the (proud) breadwinner in her own marriage
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Podcaster, Author, and Financial Journalist Farnoosh Torabi discusses the impact of her parents’ approach to money growing up as a first generation Iranian family in Massachusetts, and how the gender dynamics of their relationship impacted her at an early age. She reflects on how her childhood experiences shaped her perception of money and the impo…
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Comedian Pete Holmes on Freedom and Creativity with Money
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Comedian Pete Holmes reflects on his relationship with money and how it relates to his sense of freedom, creativity, and play. In this wide ranging conversation, Carl and Pete explore how money impacts our anxiety, and the role that spirituality plays in helping to reduce that tension. From Pete’s early days in standup comedy, to his eventual succe…
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Carl’s Daughter Lindsay Richards - A Rewarding Conversation About Money
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On this week’s episode of 50 Fires, Carl keeps things in the family by having a discussion about money with his oldest daughter, Lindsay Richards. Lindsay is a 27-year old finance professional living in New York City, and as the oldest of 4 kids, she has a lot of perspective on how her parents handled money as she and her siblings grew up. From her…
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Understanding Our Money Decisions With UCLA Professor Hal Hershfield
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Hal Hershfield is a leading expert on the psychology of making decisions, but that doesn’t mean that he always makes the right decisions about money, which should be reassuring for us all to hear. A Professor of Marketing, Behavioral Decision Making, and Psychology at UCLA’s Anderson School of Management, Hal joins Carl to discuss some of his earli…
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The First 20 Fires: Highlights From Chef Maneet Chauhan; Musician Lukas Nelson; VC Bryce Roberts; Comedian Gina Yashere; and UCLA Professor Hal Hershfield on Money and Psychopathy
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Carl takes a look back on moments from the first 20 episodes of the show, and highlights some moments that you may have missed. Celebrity Chef and Food Network Star Maneet Chauhan reflects on growing up in India and how she never compared what she had to her peers (ie - life before Instagram)! Musician Lukas Nelson reveals how he writes music that …
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School Teachers, Education, and Financial Purpose: Educator Jonathan Santos Silva on pursuing a career in education, the inevitable financial struggles in that pursuit, and finding purpose in community ...
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It’s not a secret that a elementary and secondary school educators are notoriously underpaid, and in this episode, Educator Jonathan Santos Silva discusses how he’s pursued his career in education despite any and all financial pressures. Throughout this important conversation, Jonathan and Carl ultimately discuss the role of money as an expression …
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Morgan Housel and Gretchen Housel Part 2: Why they never fight about money, why Morgan now only wants to fly business class, and how they’re talking to their kids about money
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In Part 2 with Morgan and Gretchen Housel, host Carl Richards unpacks the difference between wants and necessities (ie - sometimes flying in Business class is essential in order to effectively do what you’ve been hired to do) . They also reveal that while they have disagreements about some things, money has never really been one of them. And the ex…
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Morgan Housel and Gretchen Housel Part 1: How they use simple financial experiments to improve their relationship with money and each other
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Description If you’ve spent any time in finance, you’ll know that Morgan Housel is The New York Times Bestselling Author of The Psychology of Money and the newly released Same As Ever: Timeless Lessons on Risk, Opportunity, and Living a Good Life. But today, you’ll get to hear him like you never have before…in conversation with his wife Gretchen. I…
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Embracing Uncertainty with Cattle Rancher Elizabeth Poett
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Elizabeth Poett is a seventh generation cattle rancher, born and raised on Rancho San Julian, her family's historic 14,000-acre cattle ranch on California's Central Coast near Santa Barbara. On this episode of 50 Fires, Elizabeth reflects on the importance of embracing uncertainty as a rancher, a career where every day is different, and unpredictab…
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Coach Scott Drew - Success On and Off The Court with Baylor Men’s Basketball
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As the Head Coach of Baylor Men’s Basketball, Scott Drew has the ability to talk about money on his own behalf, as well as all of the young athletes he gets to coach and mentor each and every year. Carl and Coach Drew talk about the financial pressures many players face today, how he tries to instill good financial lessons in them before they leave…
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Carl’s guest this week holds one of the more unique relationships with money you will ever hear. Jamie is a diagnosed psychopath, but the word doesn’t mean what you think. Psychopathy is a neurological disorder, similar to narcissistic personality disorder, and as you’ll soon discover, it has allowed Jamie to treat money with a logic that we could …
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Resilience in Uncertainty with TV Writer Dave Goetsch
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Carl welcomes Dave Goetsch, comedy writer and co-executive producer of 'The Big Bang Theory' for a conversation about navigating the uncertainty of Hollywood. Dave discusses the importance of resilience - financial, emotional, and mental - throughout his career. Dave shares his firsthand experiences with financial crises, canceled shows, and the pr…
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Another Side of Downtown Josh Brown
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Josh Brown is a financial advisor known for his insights on CNBC and as the co-host of "The Compound and Friends" podcast with Michael Batnick. He’s had thousands of conversations about money over the years, but none quite like this one. Josh offers a rare, personal glimpse into the moments that molded his financial perspective and approach to life…
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Comparison Is The Thief of Joy with Johnnyswim
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Amanda Sudano and Abner Ramirez of the musical duo Johnnyswim open up about the meaning of money in their creative partnership and marriage. Money disagreements are a part of any relationship, but it's how you work through them to forge a unified financial life, and throughout their career, Abner and Amanda have prioritized creative control and fin…
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Talking About Money and Marriage with Cori and Carl Richards
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Carl invites his wife, Cori, to have a conversation about money that’s been decades in the making. 28 years into their relationship, Carl and Cori are still learning about each other–especially when it comes to money. In this intimate episode, Carl and Cori break down decades-long misconceptions about one another, assumptions they've made but rarel…
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Breaking Bad’s Dean Norris Has Always Lived Within His Means
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Being a successful actor is no easy feat, and learning how to navigate the tumultuous waves of the entertainment industry’s financial landscape takes discipline and even frugality. Actor Dean shares how his early obsession with saving money molded his successful acting career. Way before he landed the role of Hank on Breaking Bad, he understood the…
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Investing in Comedy with Gina Yashere
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Gina Yashere’s career in comedy is a result of sheer resilience, determination, and…budgeting. As a standup comedian and co-creator of Bob Hearts Abishola on CBS, she’s come a long way from her upbringing as a second generation Nigerian immigrant in London. Growing up, her mother essentially gave her two career options - doctor or engineer. After b…
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A Shark’s Take On Money and Meaning
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Matt Higgins’ journey to success, growing up poor in New York City, has been a huge part of his framework for viewing money. He and Carl discuss the idea that money is meant to be in flow, and Matt shares his earliest memory of how his mother had an abundance mindset - despite her financial circumstances. Matt candidly shares the deep-seated trauma…
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A Culinary Path to Financial Independence with Chef Maneet Chauhan
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Chef Maneet Chauhan is best known as a judge on Chopped and as a fierce culinary competitor on Food Network shows like Iron Chef, Guy’s Grocery Games, and Beat Bobby Flay. But off screen, she’s a successful chef and restaurateur with a passion for sharing the diverse flavors she grew up with in India. As an immigrant to the United States, she also …
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How Chip Gaines Uses Money As a Tool for Impact
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Most of us were first introduced to Chip Gaines on “Fixer Upper,” the blockbuster renovation show where he serves as genius contractor, adoring husband, and comic relief. But this episode of “50 Fires” reveals a different seen side of Chip–entrepreneurial, spiritual, philosophical, and reflective. Carl and Chip discuss Chip’s unconventional attitud…
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Chasing The Muse with Lukas Nelson
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Carl goes deep on the realities of being a working musician with Singer Songwriter Lukas Nelson and festival organizer Ben Anderson. Recorded at the Park City Song Summit in September. Carl’s conversation with Lukas Nelson unpacks how the allure of fame and money can be a trap for musicians, and how Lukas navigated finding his own artistic path, de…
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How Much Money Is Enough…For You?
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Money: it’s a necessity, but sometimes it becomes an obsession. For Bryce Roberts, a venture capitalist who also happens to be a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, balancing faith, morality and financial success is a personal challenge. On this episode, Carl asks Bryce to ponder the Devil's Golden Question: How much money is…
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Making Space for Art (While Also Earning a Living)
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For many artists, the path to financial stability while pursuing creative passions is often winding and steep. Drawing from her rich experiences as a poet, professor and public intellectual, Carl’s guest Caroline Randall Williams offers unique insights into the subtle dynamics between education, wealth and social standing. She also shares her perso…
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