Welcome to The Overlap's football history podcast, It Was What It Was. Each week Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper will be talking about the key episodes in football history that have shaped the footballing world. The show will be discussing the best stories from football's past, giving insights to the personalities involved. the tales from behind the scenes and the impact they left. Join us at Football University! If you enjoy the podcast please hit subscribe to never miss an episode. Hosted o ...
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In this podcast series I talk aboutthehistory of football from the 1960s right through to present day.
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The Football History Boys were founded in 2013 and write about the stunning history of the beautiful game. Ben Jones and Gareth Thomas are venturing into the world of podcasts, bringing their love for football to your ears! Give us a listen and check us out on Twitter: @TFHBs.
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Hooked on football and newspaper stories from the past ... featuring Neil Fissler and Nick Hart Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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The Football History Dude is a show dedicated to teaching fans about the rich history of the NFL and other professional football leagues. Each episode your host, Arnie Chapman, asks you to him and a guest in his Delorean and go back in time with him to explore the yesteryear of the gridiron.
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Football writer Richard Wilson steers listeners through the murky waters of Yugoslav football from the 19th Century to the 21st Century.
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The academic treatment for English-speakers who get that soccer is more than gamedays, stars and goals. Who wonder about the histories, subcultures and politics that make the game so different from many American sports cultures; and who care about a critical take on soccer as a global capitalist machine. A European-guided journey, with one expert "visiting professor" each episode.
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Former NFL, AFL, and NCAA football greats share unforgettable stories about their lives and careers. An oral history of pro and college football that often features never-before-told stories.
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A podcast on the history of the Richmond Football Club, as told in interviews with Rhett Bartlett.
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Tom Leyden and a series of guests guide you through the history of professional football, year by year, starting with the pre-merger era, welcoming key players and coaches along the way to provide first-hand stories from their days in the NFL.
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Sir Alex And His Worst Ever New Year's Day - with QPR's Andy Sinton
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New’s Eve Year 1991. Manchester United are on course to win the title for the first time since 1967. It’s Sir Alex Ferguson’s 50th birthday party, but it's a small, understated affair because United play QPR at Old Trafford the next day. A comfortable home win is expected for United to go top again - but it didn't work out that way... Join one of t…
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Deck the Halls and Turn the Tables: TAPoF as the interviewee (AI-translated from German)
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Thank you for making 50 Episodes of The Assistant professor of Football possible! Whether you celebrate anything this season or not, I hope these days are refreshing for you, hold people and emotions if you want that, and space to breathe in if you prefer that. Last year at this time, I read Michael Foreman’s classic picture book War Game as a Holi…
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The True Story of the Christmas Truce 1914
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Christmas Eve, 1914. A cold, crisp, moonlit night in Flanders. British and German soldiers are dug into opposing trenches in a hellish shelled-out landscape, strewn with rotting corpses. But an unfamiliar sound is heard from the German trenches: “Stille Nacht, Heilige Nacht” is being sung to welcome the birth of Christ. The British respond with the…
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Pickles Finds The World Cup: The Story Of Football's Most Famous Dog!
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This week on It Was What It Was, it's the tale of Pickles: The most famous dog in football history. As most football fans know, Pickles saved the day by finding the Jules Rimet trophy - the original World Cup - after it had farcically been stolen from a stamp collection exhibition in the run up to the 1966 World Cup. But the whole story is even mor…
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Wolves: Champions Of The World!
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This week on It Was What It Was, Jonathan and Rob introduce us to the team - and the match - that played a huge part in the invention of the European Cup... “Champions of the World!” was the headline given to Wolverhampton Wanderers, when they beat the mighty Hungarian team Honvéd, led by Ferenc Puskas, in 1954. Billy Wright was the star of the sho…
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SC Freiburg at 120: A New History Book, a New Stadium, and Good Old Modesty
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SC Freiburg, a former yoyo club from a pretty progressive town on the very southwestern edge of Germany is now firmly established in the Bundesliga. The club is 120 years old this year, and just a few days ago published its first investigation into its own history during Nazi rule in Germany. It’s one of the German clubs that paid attention early o…
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When the Super Eagles Stunned the World - Nigeria 1996
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This week on It Was What It Was, we're looking at one of football's most remarkable underdog stories. Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper take us back to the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta, where Nigeria’s “Dream Team” shocked the world and won men's gold - the first African team to win a senior global football tournament. From Kanu’s heroics, to dramatic com…
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Season 2024/25 Update - Nations League, Europe and more
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Yes, it's been a while, hasn't it. I'll try to make up for that here...
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Ruben Amorim: Have Man United Found Their Special One?
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This week. It Was What It Was asks: What is it with Portuguese football? With Ruben Amorim arriving at Manchester United, there are now as many Premier League managers from Portugal as from England coaching this season. Portugal also has the fourth highest-quota of Premier League players (after England, Brazil and France). For a nation of just over…
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A Multi-Club Owner in Conversation: Matt Rizzetta, American Money and Southern Italian Pride
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I've said something like this before: I believe the means of global soccer production should be controlled by fans, players and the community the club is in, collectively or cooperatively, and not by firms and companies based half a world away from the clubs in question. So, this podcast is not a natural avenue for an American multi-club owner of E…
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Richmond Webb Dolphins OL Legend
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Richmond Webb, a Miami Dolphins and Texas A&M legend, discusses his career in NCAA and the NFL. Webb is a semi-finalist for the Pro Football Hall of Fame 2025 class. He shares about blocking for Dan Marino, playing for head coach Don Shula and his college coaches Jackie Sherrill and R.C. Slocum. The Game Before the Money Oral History Foundation is …
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Rafa Benitez: My Coaching Secrets - Part Two
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Welcome to It Was What It Was, and Part Two of our special look back at the remarkable career of Rafa Benitez - with the man himself! In this second part - Rafa, Jonathan and Rob look back at Rafa's arrival at Anfield, his influence on the Premier League, and then head backstage to explain the moments and decisions behind that iconic Champions Leag…
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Rafa Benitez: My Coaching Secrets - Part One
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In this special episode of It Was What It Was, Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper are joined by the legendary Rafa Benitez. Part One explores the early years of Rafa's extraordinary career, from his beginnings as a promising young coach in Spain to his groundbreaking success with Valencia. Rafa shares the stories, challenges, and philosophy that shaped…
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NFLPA-certified contract advisor Bryan Ehrlich explains the many things NFL agents do to represent their clients. He also discusses trades, the NFL Draft, and contract negotiations. Learn more about The Game Before the Money at TheGameBeforeTheMoney.com.De către Jackson Michael
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Thomas Tuchel: The Origin Story of England's New Manager
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In this week’s episode of It Was What It Was, Jonathan and Rob take a deep dive into the fascinating journey of Thomas Tuchel, the newly appointed England manager. From his early years as a player with a mature football mind, to a detour studying economics while working in a cocktail bar, Tuchel’s path to football’s elite has been anything but ordi…
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The Money Behind Modern Football With Miguel Delaney
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In this week’s episode of It Was What It Was, Miguel Delaney discusses his new book: States of Play: How Sportswashing Took Over Football. Jonathan, Rob and Miguel assess how mega-rich investors and state-backed owners have transformed clubs and competitions around the world. The trio explain the impact of sportswashing on our modern game - where n…
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Emergency Pod: Amorim Arrives! Man United And The Busby-Ferguson Curse
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In this bonus episode of It Was What It Was hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper look into the striking parallels between Manchester United’s managerial struggles in the post-Matt Busby and post-Sir Alex Ferguson eras. Despite decades of history and immense success, the club has faced a persistent challenge in finding a manager capable of replicati…
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The Trilogy of Violence: Celtic v Racing 1967 - Part Two
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In Part Two of It Was What It Was, we dive into the explosive conclusion of the 1967 Intercontinental Cup clash between Celtic and Racing Club. With tempers flaring, the second and decisive third legs were anything but ordinary—featuring multiple send-offs, brutal fouls, and even a policeman with a drawn sword stepping onto the pitch. Jonathan Wils…
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The Trilogy of Violence: Celtic v Racing 1967 - Part One
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This week on It Was What It Was, we’re traveling back to 1967, when Celtic’s legendary Lisbon Lions clashed with Racing Club in an unforgettable, fiery three-match series for the Intercontinental Cup. In Part One, Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper set the stage before the first leg at Hampden Park, where Jock Stein’s side secured a 1-0 advantage to ta…
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Reformation Day Special: David Kilpatrick's 95 Theses (plus updates from Leeds on Red Bull, and from me on the former Chicago Red Stars)
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Martin Luther (not the King) nailed 95 protest theses against the Christian church of his day to a church door in Germany on October 31st 1517. And Protestants , properly understood, have been protesting ever since. As we near "Reformation Day" again, David Kilpatrick, a Professor of English and Sports Managment, channels that spirit of protest to …
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El Clasico: Civil War, Conspiracies And Scandal With Sid Lowe
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This week on It Was What It Was, we're talking one of football's greatest rivalries: Real Madrid and Barcelona. In the week of El Clasico, Spanish football expert Sid Lowe joins Rob and Jonathan to discuss the history, politics and scandal behind possibly the biggest club match in football. If you enjoyed the podcast, please hit subscribe to never …
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Sacchi's Football Revolution: Part Four - World Cup Heartache and Legacy
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Join us for the final part of our special series on the shoe salesman who changed football forever: Arrigo Sacchi. In this episode of It Was What It Was, Sacchi comes to the end of his first spell at AC Milan and answers his country's call - managing the Italian national side at the World Cup in 1994 and Euro 96. This episode is the last in our ser…
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Sacchi's Football Revolution: Part Three - Creating Milan's Immortals
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It Was What It Was continues our special look into the life and career of one of football's greatest and most influential managers: Arrigo Sacchi. In this episode, Sacchi has finally arrived at AC Milan and, with a team of legends in the making, his greatest work is about to begin. This episode is part of our series on Sacchi’s extraordinary career…
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Rayo Vallecano and its Neighborhood: An Unusual Spanish Fall Break Destination
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Today, we are taking a Fall break trip to Vallecas, a working class neighborhood in the Spanish capital Madrid. La Liga - the Spanish first league - holds global appeal chiefly due to its two dominators and their massive global following. However, there are wonderful and many layered stories of politics, local pride, past glories and regional confl…
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Sacchi's Football Revolution: Part Two - Small Beginnings and Big Breaks
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It Was What It Was continues the epic story of arguably the most important manager in modern football history: Arrigo Sacchi. In this episode, Rob and Jonathan explore Sacchi's rise through the coaching ranks. Sacchi earns his spurs in youth coaching, before his impressive work at Parma turns the head of Italian giants AC Milan, and their enigmatic…
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Sacchi's Football Revolution: Part One - The Making Of A Genius
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This week on It Was What It Was, we continue the epic story of arguably the most important manager in modern football history: Arrigo Sacchi. Following-up from last week's episode with Jamie Carragher (please go back and listen if you missed it!), Rob and Jonathan go back to Sacchi's roots and how his legend began. We discuss Sacchi's early years, …
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Carragher on Sacchi: The Genius Who Revolutionised Football
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Welcome to The Overlap's football history podcast, It Was What It Was. Special guest and Liverpool legend Jamie Carragher join hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper as they explore the legacy of one of football’s most iconic managers: Arrigo Sacchi. Widely regarded as one of the greatest minds in the sport, Sacchi led AC Milan to back-to-back Europe…
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The Devil Came to Yorkshire: Leeds United and Red Bull
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The McDonald’s on Elland Road in Leeds, near the stadium of Leeds United, is, apparently, the only McDonald’s there is that has removed any element with the color red. Because Red, that is Manchester United, the rose of Lancaster in the badge of Manchester City. And roses, as well as soccer shirts, in Yorkshire are white… except until this Summer, …
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Manchester City Guilty! The 1904/05 Scandal
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Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was. On this week's episode we travel back to one of the biggest financial scandals in early English football—the 1904-05 Manchester City scandal. Journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper unravel the events that saw Manchester City, fresh off their FA Cup win,…
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Heroic Villains: Aston Villa's European Miracle
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Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was. As Aston Villa return to Champions League football this week, Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper take a deep dive into the club's most iconic moment: their 1982 European Cup triumph. It Was What It Was revisits this historic victory, made even more remarkable b…
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Emancipation and Migration: Hakoah Vienna, Austria's Jewish Champion 1925
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In a bit of a parallel episode to Episode 24 ("The Footballer who Defied the Nazis? The Myth of Matthias Sindelar"), this is the story of Hakoach Vienna. A child of central European Jewish emancipation movements and of the "muscular religion" fashionable at the time, the Jewish club became Austria's first professional champion in 1925, subsequently…
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Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was. This week, our hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper dive into the extraordinary journey of Lionel Messi, widely regarded as the greatest footballer of all time. With his 2022 World Cup triumph marking the pinnacle of an already legendary career, Jonathan an…
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24/25 Season Update - Openings and the Nations League
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A run through international and domestic matters, transfer windows and Europe...
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Chelsea's Roman Empire: The Abramovich Takeover
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Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was. This week Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper tell the story of probably the most-consequential football club takeover ever: When Roman Abramovich bought Chelsea in 2003. Before sportswashing was even a word and in an age when Financial Fair Play didn’t exist, w…
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Football Utopias: An English-Language Exclusive on Creating Better Footballing Worlds with Alina Schwermer
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To critique the state of our world, our communities, to critique what is wrong with soccer in late stage capitalism is one thing. It actually isn’t a hard thing. But to dream, think and even plan for a better world, and a better football, that is something different entirely. Alina Schwermer, a young and extremely talented German journalist, has do…
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Puskas and Postecoglou: The Legacy of Ange Ball
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Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was. This week, Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper explore the connection between Ferenc Puskas and Ange Postecoglou, and how the Hungarian idol influenced the Australian coach. Regarded as one of the greatest players of all time, Ferenc Puskas’s post-playing career…
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The Premier League’s Greatest Game – Part Two
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Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was. In Part One, journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper set the scene for Liverpool’s incredible 4-3 win over Newcastle in April 1996. We now delve into the game itself and the consequences that follow. Having been 12-points clear in the run for the Premier…
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The Premier League’s Greatest Game – Part One
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Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was. In this week’s episode, we take an in-depth look into the true classic that was Liverpool v Newcastle in April 1996, as The Reds snatched a victory in the final moments in front of the Kop. Journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper delve into the backstory…
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Iceland to Moldova in 50 Minutes: The Joy, Madness and Method of the UEFA Club Tournaments' Qualifying Rounds
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Gent in Belgium. Rasgrad in Bulgaria. Mostar in Bosnia. Borås in Sweden. Tiraspol in, well, Moldova. Or Differdange in Luxemburg If you know where these places are, have some sense of what it looks like there, what the vibe is, perhaps it is because of the early UEFA club competitions' qualifying rounds. It is for me. If it isn't for you yet, it's …
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How Pep Guardiola Became A Football Genius
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Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was. In this week’s episode, journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper take an in-depth look at Pep Guardiola's journey to becoming a football legend. Focusing on the early stages of his coaching career and the political landscape at Barcelona, Jonathan and Rob…
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Chaos, Fury and Clough: Liverpool v Leeds, 1974
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Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was. In this week’s episode, we take an in-depth look into a game that was full of trouble -The 1974 Charity Shield at Wembley between Liverpool and Leeds, during a time when behaviour on and off the pitch was declining English football. Journalists Jonathan Wil…
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"This Is Our Club!" The Summer Wind that Might Become a Fall Storm in England
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If you follow a club that plays in the English Premier League, you may have gotten wind of it: over the Summer, quite a few clubs increased their season ticket prices, and phased out - or partially phased out - discounted tickets for kids and seniors, so called concession tickets. And for once, English fans seem to get organized and cooperative in …
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Football's Dirtiest Ever Game: Battle of Santiago 1962
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Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was. This week, Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper delve into one of football's dirtiest ever games: the infamous Battle of Santiago in 1962. Regarded as one of the most brutal matches in football history, the Battle of Santiago saw host nation Chile face Italy in a…
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24/25 Season Preview - Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Who wins? Vico decides.
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24/25 Season Preview - Montenegro
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The "Oh God, do I have to" of Season Previews comes around as a domestic scene diving into the toilet like it's Trainspotting comes up once more...
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Andrade: The Legend Before Pele!
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*This episode of It Was What It Was discusses issues including racism, with content that some listeners may find offensive.* Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was. In this week’s episode, we take an in-depth look into the successful Uruguay National team of the 1920s and one their key players, J…
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Goodbye Gareth: Ranking Southgate’s England Era
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Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was. In this week's bonus episode, journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper talk about Gareth Southgate and England's Euro 2024 tournament - which proved to be Southgate's last as the Three Lions manager. Jonathan and Rob reflect on Euro 2024, before questioni…
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Dezso Solti: Auschwitz Survivor, Match-fixer
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Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was. In this week’s episode, we take an in-depth look into the story of Dezso Solti, a complex character who was one of the most notorious and biggest match fixers in European football during the 1960s and 1970s. Journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper delve …
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24/25 Season Preview - Serbian Superliga
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With rule changes 8 days before the start of the season, a side that are basically owned by another side in the league, a side being basically run by the state and many others just plain in a state, it's time to talk about who Zvezda are going to beat this time round...
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The Ban on Women's Football and its Resilient Rise
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Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was. In this week’s episode, we take an in-depth look into the 1920 Boxing Day game between Dick Kerr ladies and St Helens Ladies at Goodison, which remained the biggest crowd at a women’s game in England for over 90 years. It also appeared to be a historic turn…
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