Making big decisions in highly charged emotional situations when the stakes are high and the outcome is uncertain can be paralyzing. In this podcast, we deconstruct difficult decision-making in a variety of contexts, including divorce, marriage, relationships, family, career, business, and more. Each week Karen Covy, Divorce Coach, Consultant, and Lawyer interviews industry professionals and seasoned experts from a variety of walks of life to discover their tips, techniques, and insights for ...
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How to Find the Right Divorce Attorney: Ian Steinberg The Anti-Shark
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Think divorce lawyers intentionally stir the pot and create conflict to line their own pockets? Ian Steinberg is different. As a top New York family law attorney Ian is on a mission to help people through one of life's most challenging transitions. Unlike some other divorce lawyers, Ian advocates for a team approach where divorce lawyers, divorce c…
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Practical Wisdom For Navigating Change With Jenny Stevens
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How do you stay standing when life throws its toughest punches? Divorce coach and therapist Jenny Stevens has been through it all ... and mostly all at once! In this powerful episode, Jenny recounts how she survived divorce, cancer, the death of her mother, and then the death of her ex-husband, all within a few years. Jenny's life experiences spark…
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Chelsea Gajewski: How To Keep Anxiety From Derailing Divorce
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Anxiety, depression, and other mental health challenges often strain a marriage to the breaking point. Yet divorcing someone who struggles with mental health issues is fraught with its own challenges. Family law attorney Chelsea Gajewski works at the intersection of family law and mental health. In this podcast episode, Chelsea explains how differe…
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Harnessing Intuition for Better Decision-Making with Veronica Drake
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Have you ever felt a gentle whisper in your soul, urging you to take a leap of faith that doesn’t seem logical in the moment? Veronica Drake, an intuitive coach, helps midlife female entrepreneurs reconnect with their inner voice so that they can make better decisions and find creative solutions to their business and personal problems. In this podc…
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Dr. Mort Orman Reveals How to Never Be Angry Again
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Are anger issues hijacking your relationships? If you find that you (or your spouse!) constantly get angry over the smallest things, chances are that anger is an unwanted partner in your marriage. While most therapists talk about helping you “manage” your anger, Dr. Mort Orman has developed a system that helps you eliminate your anger completely: N…
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Divorcing with Dollars and Sense: Getting Financial Clarity with My Divorce Solution
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Understanding and navigating the financial end of divorce is one of the biggest challenges many divorcing people face. That’s especially true for those who DIDN’T handle the family finances during their marriage. Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan know firsthand the financial chaos divorce can cause. That’s why they created “My Divorce Solution,”…
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Locked in Battle with Your Ex? Karen Knab's Secrets to Winning at Conflict
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Karen Knab is not your average executive coach - she's a master at transforming conflict into constructive dialogue. Whether navigating the choppy waters of family drama or the boardroom's fierce currents, Karen's expertise helps you take back control and resolve your arguments with your ex, your kids, or your boss, more amicably. Karen has cracked…
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Andrea Vacca on How to Use Collaborative Divorce to Reduce Drama
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Divorce doesn't have to be a battleground. Attorney Andrea Vacca has cracked the code on keeping families out of court and preserving their well-being throughout the divorce process. As a trailblazer in Collaborative Divorce and other alternative dispute resolution processes, Andrea’s approach is redefining what's possible when a marriage ends. The…
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A Father's Love: Erik Feig on Navigating Divorce in Neurodiverse Families
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Erik Feig is an attorney, a mediator, and the father of three neurodivergent children. Navigating through the COVID-19 pandemic with his own complex family inspired him to leave the practice of law and create a mediation practice focused on helping other families with neurodiverse children navigate conflict more effectively. In this podcast episode…
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A Conversation on Divorce, Mediation, and Growth with Lesa Koski
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Lesa Koski - a lawyer turned mediator - has a passion for helping couples divorce differently and suffer less. In her work as a mediator, Lesa has identified 7 common dilemmas divorcing women face. Those dilemmas range from finances to housing and from parenting to loneliness. To deal with all of these dilemmas, Lesa encourages her clients to educa…
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Amy Lin on Charting a New Path Through Divorce with Anew
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Amy Lin was married for 20 months. Her divorce took 3 years. Most of that time was spent wrangling through the arcane, time-consuming, and inefficient "discovery process" in the legal system. After her divorce was over, Amy decided to create a software platform to make the financial discovery process more efficient and affordable so that no one had…
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Michael Cohen on Creating Better Outcomes Through Divorce Mediation
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When divorce looms, people usually focus on the assets and finances first. But to divorce mediator Michael Cohen, the kids should always come first. Michael's own contentious divorce fueled his metamorphosis from corporate executive to passionate divorce mediator. As a mediator, Michael helps parents create co-parenting agreements centered on their…
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From Heartbreak to Triumph: Navigating Legal Abuse in Divorce with Lisa Johnson
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In this episode, Lisa Johnson, co-founder of Been There Got Out, shares her story of going through a high-conflict divorce with an emotionally abusive husband who lived a secret double life. Lisa's divorce ultimately cost her over $80,000 in legal fees to resolve - and that was just the beginning of her legal journey. Lisa then spent 10 years fight…
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Finding Lasting Love with Bela Gandhi's Smart Dating Strategies
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Bela Gandhi, Chicago’s most prominent dating and relationship expert, joins the Off the Fence Podcast to share her tips and tools for creating a lasting and fulfilling relationship. In this podcast episode, Bela peels back the curtain on her transition from the corporate world into the arena of love and relationships. She also reveals some of the s…
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Navigating Love and Entrepreneurship with Franchise Expert Meg Schmitz
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Navigating the intertwined paths of love and entrepreneurship can be as complex as a Brazilian Tango. But Meg Schmitz is an expert who shares the secrets to building BOTH a flourishing relationship AND a successful business. In this podcast episode, Meg opens up about her own complex journey, which began when her then-husband purchased a franchise …
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Karen McMahon: How To Set Boundaries And Navigate High Conflict Divorce
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Karen McMahon understands the challenges of high-conflict divorce. After surviving her own divorce from an emotionally abusive ex-husband, Karen turned to coaching others on how to deal with the complex emotions and dynamics of high-conflict divorce and co-parenting more effectively. In this podcast episode, Karen describes how she helps her client…
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Alexis (Skigen) Rago on Business, Divorce, and Raising Great Kids
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When Alexis Skigen Rago was laid off from her corporate marketing job she knew that – as much as she loved her children - she wouldn’t be happy as a stay-at-home mom. Yet, returning to the corporate world – with its rigid culture and grueling time demands – was equally unappealing. So Alexis took the bold step of starting her own marketing strategy…
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How to Divorce a Narcissist with Tracy Malone
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Living with a narcissist is hard. Divorcing a narcissist is even harder. Tracy Malone, the powerhouse behind NarcissistAbuseSupport.com, knows firsthand how ugly divorcing a narcissist can be. In this podcast episode Tracy opens up about her personal journey of divorcing a narcissist, including the manipulative behavior, gaslighting, and abusive li…
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Divorce Inside Out: Kathleen Brigham's Unique Bird-Nesting Life
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When Kathleen Brigham and her husband divorced, they did something most parents never do – they “bird nested.” What’s more, not only did they bird nest during their divorce, but they continued to rotate in and out of their family home for years after their divorce, all while their children stayed put. In this podcast episode, Kathleen Brigham walks…
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The Best of "Off the Fence" in 2023
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Have you ever felt stuck in indecision and trapped in a life you no longer want to live? Have you hesitated to get a divorce because you KNOW how ugly your toxic spouse will make it? Are you worried about getting a divorce and starting all over again "at your age"? ( ... i.e. when you're over 50!) Have you suffered from trauma in your marriage and …
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What's Your Soul Salary? Finding Your Joy with Jessica Kaskov
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For 15 years Jessica Kaskov worked as an engineer in a manufacturing company. When the company announced layoffs, Jessica did some deep soul searching. She realized that, while she was good at engineering, her real passion came from working with people. Even though Jessica ultimately survived that round of layoffs, she began searching for work that…
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How to Handle Porn Addiction with Kevin White & Polly Fleming
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With over 40 million Americans regularly visiting porn sites, pornography is the "dirty little secret" that's hiding under the hood of more divorces than most people realize. In this podcast episode, guests Kevin White and Polly Fleming (who are not married to each other!) share their deeply personal experiences with porn addiction and the cripplin…
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Creating the Amicable Divorce Network with Tracy Moore-Grant
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If given a choice, most people would prefer to divorce amicably, affordably and efficiently. Yet the divorce system isn't structured to make any of those things happen. As a divorce lawyer who litigated divorces for decades, Tracy Moore Grant got tired of seeing people get dragged through time-consuming and expensive divorces simply because that's …
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How to Create a Child-Centered Divorce with Rosalind Sedacca
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Ever wished for a comprehensive guide to navigating divorce with your child's best interests at heart? Rosalind Sedacca, divorce and co-parenting coach, as well as the founder of the Child-Centered Divorce Network, helps her clients view divorce from their children's eyes. Drawing from her own life experiences as well as her expertise in working wi…
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How to Choose the Right Divorce Process for You with Jason Sposeep
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Jason Sposeep has helped his clients get divorced in every way there is to do it. As an experienced litigator, mediator, negotiator, and Collaborative Divorce professional he has guided his clients through almost every divorce process during the course of his career.. In this episode, Jason explains what each different divorce process is, how it wo…
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Nature Inspired Breakthroughs: Alison Smith's Unique Way to Get Unstuck
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Ever felt stuck in your life, unable to move forward or find a way out of a seemingly dead-end situation? Alison Smith has developed a unique coaching technique that she uses to help her clients break through the "stuckness" of difficult situations so they can finally move forward with their lives. As a speaker, trainer, breakthrough coach, author,…
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Mandy Walker: Divorce Mediation Isn't as Clear or as Easy as You Think
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What happens when you bring together financial expertise and personal experience with divorce? You get Mandy Walker, our guest for this episode of Off the Fence. After going through her own difficult divorce Mandy switched careers from finance to divorce mediation. She now helps divorcing couples who want to end their divorce amicably through media…
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Bigger, Better, Braver: How to Create Better Relationships With Nancy Pickard
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Do you feel like you and your spouse have been having the same fight - and engaging in the same destructive behavior - for years (maybe decades!) and you can't seem to change? Nancy Pickard, a certified integrative coach, is a master at helping couples see the patterns they have subconsciously created in their marriages that are getting in the way …
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Dave Moravec: Finding Love & Maintaining Relationships with Your Adult Children After Divorce
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Dave Moravec had been married for 33 years when he decided to divorce. His children were adults at that time, but they each had very distinct opinions about - and reactions to - his divorce from their mother. Dave describes how he came to his decision through therapy, separation, and intense introspection. He also explains the challenges he faced i…
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No B.S. Coaching: Jeanell Greene's Approach to Personal Growth and Authenticity
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What if you had everything you ever wanted in life and found out it wasn't enough? Jeanell Greene was a high-achieving corporate sales rep with a 6 figure income and a 20-year career. Yet in her heart, she knew she was being called to do more. Ultimately, she decided to confront her darkest fears, leave her corporate career, and open herself up to …
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Beverly Price: When Divorce Helps You Face the Truth and Own Your Own Stuff
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Beverly Price is one of those rare humans who has navigated not one, not two, but multiple divorces in her life. Through that process and all of the pain it caused her and those she loved, she recognized that the key to having the relationship she dreamed of lay within her. After her last divorce, Beverly embarked on a journey of radical self-aware…
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Gasping for Air: Dana Diaz on How to Break Free from Narcissistic Abuse
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For decades Dana Diaz lived in the grips of an abusive relationship. Like many others in similar situations, Dana stayed for two reasons. First, she worried about what would happen to her son if she left. Second, she stayed because she didn’t feel like she deserved better. But when she found herself in a doctor's office because she only weighed 90 …
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How to Master Your Time, Energy, and Resources with Mark Bradford
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Mark Bradford wears many hats. He's an author, pilot, speaker, coach, and web developer. Above all, he's a master of life's game of time, energy, and resources. In a revelation born out of the dark depths of his divorce, Mark discovered that life isn't just about clocking hours. It's about mastering the complex interplay of emotional energy, mental…
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Discover How to Organize Your Financial Life with Nancy Doyle
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Are your finances a cluttered mess? You're not alone! Nancy Doyle, an experienced financial professional and author, shares her knowledge and expertise to help you organize and understand your finances so you can regain control of your financial life. Nancy talks about how to get your financial house in order, create an "ICE" file, and take invento…
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Bethany Dotson on How to Heal from Trauma and Create Positive Relationships
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Imagine discovering how you could heal the trauma from your past and create a healthier, happier relationship with yourself and others. That's what we explore in this podcast episode with trauma-informed yoga therapist and relationship coach, Bethany Dotson. Bethany brings over a decade of experience helping midlife career women recover from anxiet…
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Children's Whispers in Divorce: A Heartfelt Dialogue with Despina Mavridou
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Can you imagine going through a divorce and having to feel your parents' anger and watch their tears, but NOT be able to tell anyone how YOU really felt or what YOU really wanted? That's exactly what Despina Mavridou experienced as a child going through her parents' divorce. She was constantly caught in the crossfire of her parents' fights. "Tell y…
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Can Your Marriage Recover From an Affair? Tips From Dr. Juan Santos
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Are you and your spouse struggling to keep your marriage together after one of you cheated? Do you wonder if it’s even possible for a marriage to survive an affair? If so, you’re not alone. Dr. Juan Santos has spent a decade helping couples process their emotions and harness the skills they need to repair their marriage after one of them has had an…
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Jennifer Ramirez: Tips to Help Any Woman Overcome Abuse and Empower Themselves
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Domestic violence doesn't happen the way most people assume it does. Relationships don't start out being abusive. They start out with one person showering the other with love and affection. It's not until later - sometimes years later - that the relationship takes an abusive turn. What's more, domestic violence doesn't only happen among the poor an…
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Using Mindset to Make More Effective Real Estate Decisions with Leslie Glazier
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Buying and selling real estate can be nerve-wracking - especially when you're facing a life cycle event like retirement, divorce, or having a child. What's more, even when we think we know what we want, we often discover (after months of going down the wrong path) that what we really want is totally different than what we thought we wanted. Leslie …
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Linda Kooper on How to Deal with Divorce, Death, and Career Change
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After her kids were born, Linda Kooper left her career as a corporate software developer to focus on raising her kids. But as her kids got older she realized two things. 1. Her kids didn't need her as much so it was time for her to get back into the workforce; and 2. She wanted a divorce. Her journey through two simultaneous major life transitions …
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Surviving Abuse and Creating Strong, Healthy Relationships with Kari Petruch
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How do you leave an abusive marriage when you have no job, no credit score, and no safety net? That's exactly what Kari Petruch did. After living with a spouse who was verbally, emotionally, and financially abusive for 28 years, Kari Petruch had enough. For years as her kids were growing up she quietly saved some cash. Once her youngest turned 18, …
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Terry Gaspard: Rules for a Successful Remarriage and the Sleeper Effect of Divorce
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Statistics show that second marriages fail even more often than first marriages do. Yet some second marriages thrive, in spite of the odds. If you're already divorced, and you want to remarry, how can you make your second marriage work? World-renowned therapist and coach Terry Gaspard knows divorce inside and out. A child of divorced parents, Terry…
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How to Transition from Corporate Employee to Franchise Owner with Dawn Hershik
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Have you ever gone to your corporate job and thought, "There's got to be more than this?" If so, you're not alone. When Dawn Hershik was downsized after a 30-year corporate career, she opted for an unusual fresh start by going into business with her husband, Elliott. Together, they launched a Supporting Strategies franchise, which has grown to a co…
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Embracing Change and Seizing Opportunity: A Conversation with Susan Guthrie
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What if you had the power to navigate change, recognize and seize opportunities, and find unexpected joy in the midst of chaos? Susan Guthrie, a nationally recognized family law attorney, mediator, and mediation trainer has done all of that and more. Susan went from being a litigator and a partner in a leading Connecticut law firm, to launching her…
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Discovering Hidden Assets in Divorce with Forensic Accountant Tracy Coenen
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Ever wondered if your spouse might be hiding assets in your divorce? For over 25 years, forensic accountant and Fraud Coach Tracy Coenan has been working in corporate America and high net-worth divorces to help her clients discover financial misbehavior. In this episode, she identifies the most common red flags anyone can use to spot potential fina…
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How a CPA Can Help You Manage Unforeseen Tax Consequences of Divorce With Sylwia Nazar
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CPA Sylwia Nazar is a perfect example of the American Dream in action. She came to the United States from Poland when she was 19 years old. Since then, she has risen to partnership in a major accounting firm and is committed to helping other women climb the ladder of success as well. In this episode of Off the Fence, Sylwia demystifies the complex …
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Talent Optimization, Seasons of Life, and the HR Implications of Divorce with Traci Austin
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How can small businesses cope when their employees are distracted by divorce? In this episode, certified HR professional Traci Austin shares her insights about how understanding the unique needs of each employee contributes to business success. Traci explores how the seasons of life (marriage, divorce, the birth of a child, or dealing with an aging…
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How to Strengthen Parent-Child Connections and Raise Well-Adjusted Kids with Rita Morris
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Do you ever feel like connecting with your kids is an uphill battle? Today's episode features an enlightening conversation with Rita Morris, a parent coach and psychotherapist, who sheds light on how we can strengthen our relationships with our children by meeting them where they're at and teaching them decision-making skills from a young age. Rita…
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Andrew Hatherley: Rising from the Ashes of Gray Divorce to Create an Amazing Life
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Are you prepared to navigate the complexities of Gray Divorce and uncover the potential for personal growth that comes with it? Join this conversation with Andrew Hatherley, founder and CEO of Wiser Divorce Solutions, Transcend Retirement, and host of the Gray Divorce podcast. Andrew dives deeply into the concept of post-traumatic growth and how it…
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How a Certified Divorce Real Estate Agent Can Help You Get More for Your House
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When Kathryn Hoffman had to sell her home in her divorce in late 2009 she quickly discovered that her realtor didn’t have the divorce expertise required to answer her questions or help her make the best decisions. Fast forward to today and as a Certified Divorce Real Estate Expert Kathryn now helps her divorcing clients get the information and supp…
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