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A podcast about race, food, and racist food. Join Kelly Nusz and Darryl Goodner in discussing the wild and ridiculous racist tropes in the food you know, and probably love. While also dismantling those tropes and creating something new.
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How do you take your coffee? Cream? Sugar? Or do you drink it Black? As the world's second most traded commodity (next to oil) it's hard to have your morning fix without coming to terms with the origins of your favorite drink. It'll probably come as no surprise that coffee as a long history of slavery. We discuss our own relationship with coffee as…
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The holidays can be really tough, and this year presents its own specific issues as we ease out of (or back into? or never left?) pandemic restrictions. Join Kelly and Darryl as they talk about depression, divorce, and other things that can make this time of year extra special. To get the full version of this episode, become one of our supporters a…
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We are celebrating Native American Heritage Month with our new best friend, Nicole Robey. Join us as we chat with Nicole about growing up Winnebago, what it means to be a "white-presenting" Native, and the work she does today as part of the Indigenous Affinity Group at Amazon as well as doing ramen and fry bread pop-ups with her husband. We enjoy s…
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As we enter into the more contemporary history of schools in the United States, we must first look at the effects of redlining and housing discrimination. Where you live often dictates where you go to school, and in addition, property taxes are tied to school budgets - we can't look at one without looking at the other. So many sidebars and chitchat…
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In Part 2, we discuss how school lunch menus were used as a tool to assimilate those who had immigrated to the United States. We also look at the messy metaphor of a Melting Pot for immigrant assimilation and evaluate how school lunches differ around the world. Please send us any of your personal stories (or your parents' stories) about what school…
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In our first installment on School Lunch, Kelly and Darryl investigate the uncomfortable history of Native American boarding schools, their effect on native culture, and how generational trauma continues to manifest today. We look at how food was used as a weapon and a tool by European colonists to assimilate young children and their families.…
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Kelly and Darryl explore the world of hot sauce by playing the party/card game, Hot Ones. Based on the popular show, the game takes you through truth or dare, trivia, and "roast" questions where the other people in the game roast you. We taste seven different sauces starting with Darryl's homemade sauce and ending with The Last Dab (included with t…
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From medicine to slave ships to Beyonce's bag, chilies and hot sauce have had a long history within the Black community. We begin in 200 A.D. with the Greek physician Galen, travel to the New World and through Louisiana, and end up on the floor of a saloon in Nevada. In our next episode, we'll be tasting Darryl's own hot sauce along with a few othe…
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On June 19, 1981, three teenagers tragically drowned at Booker T. Washington Park during what was then the largest Juneteenth celebration in Texas. They had been taken into police custody after a small bag of marijuana and a joint had been found. Listen as Kelly tells Darryl the difficult story of the Comanche Three and how the community of Limesto…
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Happy Juneteenth! In this celebratory episode, Darryl prepares a traditional Juneteenth meal of pulled pork, sweet potatoes, watermelon, and strawberries. Kelly shares the history of the holiday, how it has been observed, and the food that makes this day unique and special. Join us as we raise a glass of Strawberry Red Mule (a cocktail Kelly invent…
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In this very personal episode Kelly and Darryl talk about the life and death of David McAtee and what his loss meant to our community. Darryl shares his personal experience as a participant at the protest and describes how the community came together to mourn, celebrate, and express their anger. We also eat a meal of jerk chicken, collard greens, a…
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In our first episode of May, Kelly chats with our friend Camille Pase about growing up as an immigrant from the Philippines, and the different cultures she was exposed to in California and Kentucky. We talk about the food she grew up eating, and the pride she feels when making food for her own family. And of course, we cover some racism and how it …
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With all of our new listeners and recent attention that we have received from the LEO, we decided to pause and do a Q&A episode. Darryl and Kelly discuss their friendship, food, and of course, ice cream. Lots of laughing and personal history, but we're leaving the racism behind for this one. Listen in to learn more about us, and hear two friends ju…
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Because of the recent news of Coca-Cola being "canceled" after their statement regarding Georgia's new voting rollbacks, we decided to revisit episode 4 of our miniseries on Coke. The original recording had some flaws so if you needed to skip that episode, here is your chance to catchup. We revisit the discrimination case against Coke in 2000, thei…
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Ready to listen to the goofiest re-telling of the history of polio and talk about pizza? How do those things even belong together? Listen to this bonus episode of a sleepy Darryl and a tired Kelly try to make sense of the racist science and policies that went along with the U.S. polio epidemic. We also talk about the delicious pizza Darryl made wit…
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Part 2 of Fannie Lou Hamer is a wild one - it tells the story worthy of the big screen (as you will hear us discuss). In short, Fannie Lou Hamer became a star in the Civil Rights movement, scared the pants off President Johnson, and built a farm co-op that provides a model for what we continue to strive for today. Special thanks to DJ LoveAlways fo…
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In the first part of this series, we learn about FLH's childhood in Mississippi including the struggles, and joy, she experienced growing up on a plantation. We take a look at some of the history surrounding her early years, and the rebellious steps she began to take to subvert the systems that kept her suppressed. Join us as we gush over one of ou…
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In this bonus episode, we take the opportunity to talk to a local black business owner who also happens to be co-host of this podcast - Darryl Goodner. Goodner is part owner of the ice cream shop Louisville Cream in Louisville, KY. We discuss what this past year has been like and the changes that have affected his business - the good and the bad an…
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Recorded in early January, Kelly and Darryl continue their conversation on fat phobia and black body image. We are a bit all over the place, skip around, and Kelly got a little drunk by the end. Did this episode take an extra day to edit and almost crash our computer? Yes to both of these.De către Butter Pecan Podcast
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We're back in 2021 to talk about dieting and body image. In this first installment on our two-parter on dieting, Darryl and Kelly talk about their own experiences with dieting and feelings of discomfort in their own bodies. We also interviewed New York dancer and Louisville, KY native, Leslie Cuyjet about her own experiences with dieting, feeling o…
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In what we are sure will be our first investigation into ice cream, Kelly and Darryl discuss how they came up with the idea for the show, their own relationship with the dessert, and some black facts about the tasty treat. We also discuss the "Ice Cream Truck Song" and the new replacement-song that just came out this summer by RZA.…
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In our third installment on Coca-Cola, we learn how the company ignored their black customers while Pepsi grew and sustained their base by appealing to this same group. Pepsi offered twice the amount of soda for the same price, created a black sales team, and black advertising team while Coca-Cola struggled with old traditions.…
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