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"This Won't Last" with Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, Logan Bartlett, and Zach Weinberg
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Sit in on Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, Logan Bartlett, and Zach Weinberg's monthly backchannel where they unpack their hottest takes on the future of tech, business, venture, investing, and politics. This Won't Last is part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: www.turpentine.co
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Inside OpenAI's First Venture Round (Khosla), AI Leaderboards, and Regulatory Chess Games
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This is the second episode of This Won’t Last. The show is a monthly conversation between Logan Bartlett of Redpoint, Keith Rabois at Khosla Ventures, Kevin Ryan at Alleycorp, and Zach Weinberg, biotech founder (Curie.Bio) and investor. This episode covers Khosla’s initial investment into OpenAI, runaway AI CapEx, long-term AI leaderboards, and reg…
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Is Founder Mode Insightful? Plus AI Valuations, Unrealized Gains Tax, and Putin's Telegram
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This is the debut episode of This Won’t Last, a monthly conversation between Logan Bartlett of Redpoint, Keith Rabois at Khosla Ventures, Kevin Ryan at Alleycorp, and Zach Weinberg, biotech founder (Curie.Bio) and investor. This episode covers Founder Mode, the state of VC fundraising, the potential for an unrealized gains tax, and Russia’s influen…
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How To Be the Jenny To the Industry’s Forrest Gump with Zach Rodgers
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Kevin has a fun chat with Zach Rodgers, Editor-in-Chief and Co-Founder of Marketecture Media, a new media venture that helps people navigate the world of marketing technology. Zach also ran AdExchanger’s editorial operations and supported programming strategy for the company’s Programmatic IO and Industry Preview Events. Zach and Kevin discuss edit…
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The Hypocrisy of Woke Capitalism with Jennifer Sey
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Jennifer Sey is an author, business executive, and retired artistic gymnast. She’s also known in the marketing world for spending a great deal of time with Levi Strauss, as she managed all aspects of the brand as brand president, including product. Jennifer and Kevin talk about the hypocrisy of woke capitalism, and why brands should focus on having…
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Dirty, Dangerous, and a Little Dull: Chris Cunningham of C2V
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Kevin welcomes Chris Cunningham, a true living legend in the digital space and a 20-year media and tech veteran who is a serial entrepreneur turned early-stage venture capitalist. Chris recently launched a $10 million early-stage venture to fund the C2V brand. He talks about how they select the brands in their portfolios. The guys give their real t…
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The Future of Online Gaming, The Metaverse, and Google’s Collusion with Mike Shields
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Kevin first gives his take on the slap heard across the world and then welcomes guest Mike Shields, Founder of Shields Strategic Consulting, host of Next in Marketing Podcast, and former writer and editor at Business Insider, Digiday, Adweek, and Wall Street Journal. They discuss how the world of online gaming is changing our society, a few importa…
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Focus on the Value You Create, Not on Yourself with Mark Naples
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Mark Naples is the founder of WIT Strategy and has led strategic efforts on behalf of more than 450 companies, complete company re-positioning campaigns, and dozens of corporate and product launches. He joins the show today to talk about keeping your ego checked, why “bro culture” holds back brands, the importance of setting ground rules and keepin…
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Kate Kaye Explains WTF is Going On With Google and Their Privacy Budget
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Kate Kaye is an award-winning tech journalist who has published work in many places including MIT Technology Review and NPR. Kate covered the data industry for Ad Age and digital political campaigns for ClickZ. She joins Kevin this week to talk about Google’s Privacy Budget, the Privacy Sandbox Initiative, and how we get people to care about the di…
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Radical Transparency with Jonathan Elist of Penuma
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This week, Kevin welcomes Jonathan Elist, CEO of Penuma, an amazing solution for men that is not your traditional product. Jonathan discusses what Penuma is, and how radical transparency and trust are at the top of Penuma’s core values. He talks about some of the challenges in building the community, and how they balance both in-house marketing wit…
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Leaning into Agility and Holacracy with Nita Sanger
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The digital transformation is changing every aspect of how companies do business, and the most successful companies are those who are leaning into these changes. Nita Sanger joins the show as the director of digital advisory practice at Cherry Bekaert and master of strategic intelligence, common sense, and in-practice digital transformation. She ha…
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You Are Your Own Brand with Elizabeth Nader
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Elizabeth Nader can tell right away whether she is coaching someone that has what it takes to succeed. Yes, talent and intelligence are important, but the ability to be coached is what takes someone that extra step further and gets them to grow past their limiting beliefs. As a coach, entrepreneur, author, and speaker, Elizabeth’s mission is to hel…
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Bringing Game Development to the People: Kathryn Guess of Microsoft Game Stack
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Kathryn Guess is a Product Manager for Microsoft, who built Game Stack and Azure PlayFab brands from the ground up. She joins the show this week to talk about how gaming isn’t the isolating experience one thinks it may be, and how gaming actually helps build communities and join people together — especially during the pandemic. She talks about the …
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Position Change As Staying the Same with Carla Rover
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We’ve all dealt with clients that are directly problematic, or ones that mean well, but can have moments of toddler-like temper tantrums. Enter Carla Rover, an outspoken, very witty, and widely published writer, to help us navigate these waters. Carla talks about the reasons you may be getting ghosted after a job interview, content mapping and her …
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Music Knows No Boundaries — Elham Al Marzooqui
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This week, Kevin welcomes cellist Elham Al Marzooqi to the show. Elham is the first female cellist in the Emirates, along with being a Senior Legal Counsel for Flash Entertainment. Elham speaks about how she adjusted as a musician during the pandemic to connect with her audience online, and ways that she feels our society could better recognize and…
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Life Lessons of a Recovering Douchebag with Joey Dumont
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Joey Dumont returns to the show to share the inspiration behind his poignant, touching, and raw new book, Joey Somebody: The Life and Times of a Recovering Douchebag. Out now and available in stores, Joey’s book is relatable and all too typical for those who have struggled with addiction, abuse, and any type of loss or trauma. Joey talks about gett…
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Rebranding Socialism as Conscious Capitalism
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Joseph Jaffe has written five best-selling books and thousands of columns, along with launching the CoronaTV show during the pandemic. He and Kevin talk about reconciling our current state to look at the opportunities with wonder and awe, how a social contract would help the way we talk to each other online, and the deep need to reclaim social medi…
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At The Frontlines of Changing The Way We Communicate, Market, and Consume with Dan Granger
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Dan Granger is the CEO of Oxford Road, a Los Angeles-based ad agency that provides innovative and groundbreaking marketing campaigns for some of the best-known brands out there now including Hulu and DollarShaveClub. Dan joins the show to talk about creating real change in the way we communicate, how brands can navigate a divided marketplace, and h…
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Keeping the Team Dynamic and Culture in a New Remote Landscape with Adam Kleinberg
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This week, I welcome Adam Kleinberg, CEO and Co-Founder of Traction. We discuss the way culture is changing dramatically as a result of employees having the ability to work remotely, and how we can thrive in a remote environment without affecting the work or the team dynamic. Adam talks about Traction’s remote working policy, how they provide every…
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Integrating Smart Data with Andreas Cohen
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Andreas Cohen is the Tribal Leader of the Smart Data Marketing Elite and founder of I-COM. He joins the show from Spain this week to explain why understanding Smart Data is important for businesses to stay competitive and make sure their message to the customer is consistent and effective. He also discusses the results from the Hackathon, the benef…
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Integrating the Spreadsheet and the Story with Rishad Tobaccowala
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Rishad Tobaccowala is an author, speaker, and advisor, named by Time Magazine as one of five “Marketing Innovators.” He joins the show this week to talk about his new book, Restoring the Soul of Business, and how we can transform personally and professionally in this new era of “The Great Re-invention.” Rishad and I also discuss why tech is nothing…
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The Pathology of Ghosting with David Berkowitz
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David Berkowitz is my long time friend, colleague, founder of Serial Marketer, and an all-around good guy that will never ghost you. In fact, David feels as though it’s important to write back to everyone — even if it’s just a brief reply. This week he joins me for a conversation on why people ghost, what to do about it, and why you don’t want to b…
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How The Facebook Ad Boycott Is Affecting The Industry with Mike Kujanek
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Mike Kujanek is the Founder & CEO at Magnitude Digital, an award-winning full-service digital marketing agency based in New York, Atlanta, Los Angeles, and Tokyo. Mike joins the show to talk about how to best navigate the ever-changing world when it comes to digital advertising and social media platforms. Mike and I talk about the Stop Hate for Pro…
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Embracing Digital Marketing and What We Can Learn from Comic Book Stores with Jeff Ferguson
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Jeff Ferguson joins the show to talk about how brands are stepping up to reengineer their digital involvement to rise and meet the needs of our current climate. Jeff has been on the scene since the early days of digital as a writer for the trades, speaker, and leader in agency, publishing, and the client-side. Jeff and Kevin discuss the role of ent…
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Honesty Will Have a Come Back, But Not For the Reasons You Think with Joey Dumont
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Joey Dumont is a leader in the digital space and known for work that encourages brands to be truthful and genuine with their customers. He joins the show to talk about his role as the Co-Founder and Partner Lead at True Thirty and Executive Producer of the documentary, The Naked Brand. Joey shares how we can take back communication and honesty in t…
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Creating Civility and Opportunity with Rob Norman
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The well-known and widely-respected Rob Norman joins the show this week. Before retiring, Rob served as GroupM’s North American CEO and global chief digital officer. In today’s episode, Rob and Kevin talk about creating a resume that highlights your superpowers, the need to be self-aware and civil to one another now more than ever, and how we can s…
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Breaking the Mold of Traditional Sales Conversations with Doug Weaver of Upstream
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Doug Weaver is a legend in the world of sales strategy and digital sales leadership. He is also the Founder & CEO of Upstream Group, Inc. and uses his expertise to help others break the mold of traditional sales conversations and get the best results for both themselves and their potential clients. He joins the show to share some of the best practi…
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Digital Networking, CDX, and Audience Customization with Drew Ianni of CDX
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Drew Ianni, Founder, and Chairman of CDX, a conference series for senior digital executives, joins the show this week. Drew and Kevin discuss the merge into the Techonomy family and suggestions as to how we can best adjust to networking digitally for the time being. Drew also shares examples of speakers that connected to the audience and moved them…
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Search Engine Marketing with Chris Boggs and the COV-Ad Pandemic
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Chris Boggs is a top-tier digital marketing consultant and one of the stewards in Search Engine Marketing. He joins the show this week to talk about what he has seen change the most over his many years of experience in SEO, PPC, social media, and web analytics, and where he sees the trends moving next. Chris and Kevin also discuss the state of SEMP…
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The Do-Good Auto Coalition with CEO Diana Lee
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Constellation Agency Cofounder and Do-Good Auto Coalition CEO Diana Lee joins the show today to share how she is helping the auto industry step up in a time of crisis and get food and supplies to the people and organizations that need it most. She shares how her experience from age 18 in the automotive industry gave her a thick skin and can-do atti…
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Successful Brand Storytelling in the Current Climate
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Tricia Nichols is currently the Chief Marketing Officer at Independent Pet Partners and was Senior Vice President of Marketing at Estee Lauder along with leadership roles in a variety of different industries. Tricia joins the show to talk about how brands can use authentic storytelling to get their message across and bond with the consumer, what cu…
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Rick Parkhill Talks iMedia and Helping the Industry Grow in a Healthy Way
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Rick Parkhill joins the show to talk about his time as the founder and prior CEO of iMedia Communications, which launched in 2001. Rick talks about how iMedia helped build community and produced an event where everyone was encouraged to drop their agendas and just connect for the greater good of the industry. Rick was a founding executive at Intera…
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How Will Advertising Be Bought Going Forward with Jim Spanfeller
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De către TMI with Kevin Ryan
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The Facebook Oversight Board, The Recount, and Challenging Large Companies with John Battelle
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The Changing Role of the CMO — Stephanie Fierman
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De către TMI with Kevin Ryan
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The Value of CES with Jeff Minsky
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De către TMI with Kevin Ryan
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Sir John Durham and His Life-Changing Durhamisms
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The Man Behind SEO — Bruce Clay
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Living legend and one of the founding fathers of SEO joins the show this week. Bruce is known as the man that coined the phrase “SEO” and has taught thousands of people how search functions, the misconceptions, and why it’s important we do it right. He and I talk about how he helps clients meet their SEO challenges, how we can establish ourselves a…
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Clarity of Vision and Going Beyond Tomorrow With Amrita Sahasrabudhe
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Amrita Sahasrabudhe is the Vice President of Marketing at FastMed Urgent Care and former Sr. Manager of Marketing Strategy & National Promotions at PetSmart. She joins the show to talk about why it’s important for marketers to push the boundaries and move companies to the next step. Amrita also discusses the difference between adapting to what is n…
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What You Need to Know about GDPR and CCPA: Part 2
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Alan Chapell returns for the second installment of a two-part series about GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation, and the CCPA (California Consumer Privacy Act). This week, we cover what you need to know in terms of how both will affect brand and human reputations, the right to be forgotten, and what we all sign up for when visiting a digital si…
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Creating Positive Changes By Working Together with Agnes Sym
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Agnes Sym, a full-time working mom of two, is vying for one of two seats on the Millburn Township Committee. Agnes is a board member of the Newcomers & Neighbors of Short Hills & Millburn, an active member of the Glenwood Parent Teacher Organization, and Vice President and Associate General Counsel in the Legal Department of Fidelity Investments. S…
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What’s Really Going on with GDPR and CCPA?
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Alan Chapell joins the show this week in the first of a two-part series to talk about the GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation), and the CCPA (California Consumer Privacy Act). We talk about how each will change data privacy regulation, and how it will reshape the way in which data is handled in both advertising and consumer privacy. Alan and I…
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Industry leader Greg Sterling was the Contributing Editor for 13 years at Search Engine Lane, and now is the Principal at Sterling Marketing Intelligence. Greg is one of the top authorities on local marketing and location intelligence and discusses the changes he has seen in digital strategy and content development over the past several decades. Gr…
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Digital marketing strategist, entrepreneur, writer, and speaker Anders Hjorth joins the show today to talk about what he has learned in his experience working at and founding several Digital Marketing agencies in Paris. Anders is also the founder of Innovell, provider of Digital Marketing insights, and sees, inside and out, the formula to success i…
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Farhad Divecha built an agency from the ground up, has experience in every area of digital, and is making a lot of news lately with his tremendous client base. Farhad came from India, came to do his graduate work in the U.S., and now lives in the UK, running AccuraCast. In this episode, Farhad talks about the things people are doing wrong (and righ…
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The Real Role of a Chief Marketing Officer with Chris Moloney
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Chris Moloney, Chief Marketing Officer and Head of Partnerships for TaxSlayer, joins the show today. Chris shares his wisdom from his prior roles including CMO of CAN Capital, CEO of GREMLN Social Media, and Chief Marketing Officer for Wells Fargo Advisors, Experian, and Scottrade. Chris discusses exactly what he does inside his role, how companies…
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What Brings Your Brand Culture to Life? The Impact of a Healthy Brand Culture; Designing a Purpose-Driven Culture
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This week, Jason Burnham joins us to dive deep in the past, present, and future of creating a healthy brand culture and surviving acquisition. Jason is widely recognized as one of the founding fathers of digital marketing and founded Culture Design to help businesses transform and thrive. He discusses the importance of maintaining good personal and…
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What’s Going on With Storytelling? We are Addressing the Right Problems in the Wrong Places
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Michael Estrin has some of the most engageable writing out there now and has learned a lot of lessons in storytelling and connecting online throughout the years. He talks with us today about writing for iMedia Connection, his take on the new Facebook, the modern role of social shaming, what most of us are doing wrong with our social media posts, an…
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Social Media and Analytics with Doug Schumacher The Tradeoff of Convenience for Privacy with Doug Schumacher
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Doug Schumacher joins the show today to talk with us about the present and future of speech and voice recognition, Facebook as the new MySpace, and exactly what Facebook is apologizing for today as opposed to yesterday. He also discusses where the voice space is being used correctly and where the strategy falls short. Doug is in a unique position n…
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Creating a Bridge for the Warriors — Tom Deierlein
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Tom Deierlein, a 1989 graduate of West Point, gets his energy from helping others less fortunate both locally and globally. Today, he joins the show to talk about his background in leadership, business, service, and why he founded the many touching ways that the TD Foundation is helping American Veteran heroes and their families. Tom shares an amaz…
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Changing the Game in Advertising, Events, and Digital with Tameka Kee
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Tameka Kee has spent the last decade connecting the dots of technology, media, and marketing. Currently the Vice President of Content & Strategy at Wise Public Relations, she joins us today to talk about some common misconceptions of virtual reality, where we are now with the technology, what she sees emerging in the coming years, and how it is cha…
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