Hear how technology can help attorneys, legally speaking, with two of the top legal technology experts. Authors and lawyers, Dennis Kennedy and Tom Mighell host this Legal Talk Network show.
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Pardon the Interruption: 2025 Edition
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46:01Another year gone! With 2025 rapidly bidding us adieu, Dennis, Tom, and their good pal Debbie Foster send us off with their annual Kennedy-Mighell edition of Pardon the Interruption. They argue different sides of popular tech topics in “Toss-Up”, play legal tech Mad Libs in “What’s the Word?”, and take the temp on 2025 trends in “Hot or Not?”. And,…
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When Does AI Content Use Cross the Line?
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41:39Many are relying heavily on genAI to create their content—whether it be emails, marketing copy, social posts, or a seeming myriad of other applications. But, is this overreliance and lack of human creativity a sprint toward mediocrity? Dennis and Tom discuss the slippery slope of AI content creation, emphasizing the risk of sub-quality work and exp…
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What if you had an AI that not only assisted you, but acted as a highly trained source of strategic support in your day-to-day work? Dennis and Tom explore the idea of creating an AI Chief of Staff that could function in an organizational or advisory role. They share their experimental approach, walk through their methods for developing and trainin…
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Fresh Voices on Legal Tech with Mary Mack
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46:56AI, GenAI, agentic AI—what’s the difference between these forms of artificial intelligence? Dennis and Tom welcome Mary Mack of EDRM to talk through the latest in AI developments and how they are impacting legal in multitudinous ways. Mary also shares how her unique career blend of IT and law came about and offers her unique perspective on the oppo…
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Fresh Voices on Legal Tech with Michael Kraft
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42:46When teaching technology, empathy and patience are key to helping the learner engage and understand tech’s necessary role in legal practice. Dennis and Tom talk with Michael Kraft about his many years in IT service to legal professionals. They discuss practical methods for encouraging tech competence, favorite tools for collaboration, recent legal …
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Fresh Voices on Legal Tech with April Dawson
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50:55AI is disrupting every facet of the law, and understanding how to engage with AI technologies is essential for all attorneys and law students. Dennis and Tom talk with April Dawson about her experience researching and teaching about ethical, effective AI uses in the legal world while preserving vital learning skills for law students. They discuss A…
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Fresh Voices on Legal Tech with Marc Lauritsen
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41:40Is true technology competence possible? The speed at which technology advances is now impossible to stay completely ahead of, but as lawyers, a commitment to lifelong learning and a focus on the humanistic side of law can help us engage effectively. Dennis and Tom talk with Marc Lauristen about his work with legal technology, lawyers, and law stude…
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400! Celebrating the Kennedy-Mighell Report’s Quadricentennial
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1:06:46Debbie Foster hosts this edition of the Kennedy-Mighel Report to talk with Dennis and Tom about their 19 years and 400 episodes of podcasting! They talk through the past, present, and future of the podcast, discussing how they’ve remained in the space for so long, cringy and favorite moments from podcasts past, and what they’ve learned over many ye…
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This is Your Second Brain on AI
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44:07Are the guys on the verge of a major Second Brain breakthrough, hand in hand with AI? Dennis and Tom reexamine their ongoing Second Brain projects, discussing nagging questions about the efficacy of their current systems and how they plan to move forward with their personal knowledge management. Later, a listener and long-time iPhone user wonders—a…
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Fresh Voices on Legal Tech with Bridget McCormack
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49:01Is AI the technology that will finally force lawyer tech competence? With rapid advances and the ability to address numerous problems and pain points in our legal systems, AI simply can’t be ignored. Dennis & Tom welcome Bridget McCormack to discuss her perspectives on current AI trends and other exciting new tech applications in legal spaces. Brid…
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Fresh Voices on Legal Tech with Bridgette Carr
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43:38What we do as lawyers and judges is deeply human and deeply connected to our communities—so how does technology fit into that perspective? Dennis and Tom welcome Bridgette Carr to share her insights on technology training, AI, and the use of modern tools to solve legal problems and bolster the communities we serve. Drawing from her work with law st…
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Fresh Voices on Legal Tech with Kimberly Bennett
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40:46Subscription and flat fee legal services have endless potential for modern law practice, and with legal tech by your side, you can scale with this fresh billing model. Dennis and Tom talk with Kimberly Bennett of Fidu about her experience developing subscription legal services and her current perspectives on the state of legal tech in the professio…
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Fresh Voices on Legal Tech with Mathew Kerbis
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47:13New approaches to legal service delivery are propelling us into the future. Don’t get left behind! AI and automations are making alternative service delivery easier and more efficient than ever. Dennis & Tom welcome Mathew Kerbis to learn more about his expertise in subscription-based legal services. As always, stay tuned for the parting shots, tha…
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On the Go: Your Tech-Enhanced Summer Vacation
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40:42Summer is the perfect time for travel, and the right tech tools can help you get even more enjoyment out of your wanderings! Dennis & Tom talk through a comprehensive list of travel-focused technology to assist with planning, organization, security, and comfort. Whether you're heading out for business or leisure, the guys offer a variety of practic…
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Fresh Voices on Legal Tech with Sarah McCormick
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50:20Legal practice technologies help you provide better, more efficient services for your clients, but how do you leverage them to improve your practice? Dennis & Tom talk with Sarah McCormick about her collaborative tech approach that helps lawyers understand how to apply technology in legal practice. They discuss everyday essentials in legal tech, AI…
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Back to Basics: Understanding AI Tools from the Ground Up
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47:19Much of our AI exposure comes from the media headlines highlighting its best and worst-case scenarios, but does that give attorneys an accurate view of AI’s uses and capabilities? Dennis and Tom talk with Uwais Iqbal about his work in the legal AI space and his focus on helping attorneys understand and implement AI in legal practice. Uwais emphasiz…
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Fresh Voices on Legal Tech with Nikki Shaver
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44:13Determining which legal technology is best for your law firm can seem like a daunting task, so Legaltech Hub does the hard work for you! In another edition of Fresh Voices, Dennis and Tom talk with Nikki Shaver, CEO at Legaltech Hub, about her in-depth knowledge of technology and AI trends. Nikki shares what effective tech strategies should look li…
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What’s Happening in LegalTech Other than AI?
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40:02Of course AI will continue to make waves, but what other important legal technologies do you need to be aware of in 2025? Dennis and Tom give an overview of legal tech tools—both new and old—you should be using for successful, modernized legal workflows in your practice. They recommend solutions for task management, collaboration, calendars, projec…
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Maximizing Microsoft Copilot in Your Legal Practice
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34:23Copilot is a powerful tool for lawyers, but are you making the most of it within your Microsoft apps? Tom Mighell is flying solo at ABA TECHSHOW 2025 and welcomes Microsoft’s own Ben Schorr to the podcast. Ben shares expert insights into how lawyers can implement Copilot’s AI-assistance to work smarter, not harder. From drafting documents to analyz…
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The Right Way to Choose Your AI Tools
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50:54Not a week goes by without another new AI tool hitting the market, and this flood of product choices can be incredibly overwhelming for any consumer, lawyers included. So, how do attorneys figure out what they need and which tools are trustworthy? Dennis and Tom talk through the many categories of AI tools and explain how learning to use major LLM …
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Fresh Voices on Legal Tech with Amy Brookbanks and Michael Kennedy of Addleshaw Goddard
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56:09Legal teams work best when their operations run smoothly and efficiently, and developing innovations must be kept in mind as teams hone their legal operations strategies. Dennis and Tom talk with legal tech experts Amy Brookbanks and Michael Kennedy about their work helping lawyers and in-house legal teams work through problems with effective techn…
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Fresh Voices on Legal Tech with Jason Tashea, Georgetown's Judicial Innovation Fellowship Founding Director
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45:00Courts matter, and the rule of law is essential to the success of our judicial system. However, collectively, we often do not fully understand the impact of courts on the wellbeing of society. In a wide-ranging discussion, Dennis and Tom talk with Jason Tashea about his perspectives on legal technology and its current impacts in the legal field, pa…
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Fresh Voices on Legal Tech with Peter Duffy, TITANS Founder and CEO
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43:18Sooner than later, those without competent AI use will be viewed as backwards or even bizarre, so lawyers must strive to work with AI now to keep up with its developments. With loads of AI expertise to draw from, Peter Duffy joins Dennis and Tom to share his thoughts on the overall landscape of legal technology and lawyer engagement with AI. They t…
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According to Tom, ABA TECHSHOW is one of the most accessible conferences out there! They strive to make technology approachable for all levels of experience—whether you’re a newbie or a tech expert, there’s a whole slew of great opportunities for learning about legal tech and engaging in social events. As seasoned TECHSHOW veterans, Dennis and Tom …
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AI's Role in Shaping Tomorrow's Lawyers: The Lessons Law Students Are Learning
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40:53Artificial intelligence has masses of potential for improving the legal world, and we should certainly expect it to become integral to the practice as we move into the future. With that reality in mind, today’s law students need to be educated on ethics, uses, and ongoing developments in AI. In this episode, Tom talks to Dennis about his classes de…
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Dennis & Tom’s 2025 Tech Resolutions
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39:18New year, new goals! Dennis and Tom share their tech resolutions for the upcoming year and take a look back to see how they did on their goals from 2024. As might be expected, AI continually expands in the tech and legal worlds, so AI is prominent amongst the guys’ resolutions. They talk about their hopes for new AI implementations, thoughts on str…
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Pardon the Interruption: 2024 Edition
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45:39It’s tradition, y’all! Dennis, Tom, and Debbie Foster are together again for their year-end Pardon the Interruption podcast episode. Beginning with “Toss-Up”, they take on opposing views on legal tech issues (GenAI, collaboration, adoption, etc.). For their “What’s the Word?” segment, they choose the best descriptors for 2024’s trending tech, and t…
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Fresh Voices On Legal Tech with Ilona Logvinova, Director of Practice Innovation at Cleary Gottlieb
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41:01The world of AI and legal tech is evolving ever more rapidly, and it is all too common for lawyers to feel intimidated at the thought of keeping up with the constant barrage of change. How should lawyers maintain their tech competence? Dennis and Tom talk with Ilona Logvinova about her work in tech and AI innovations for lawyers. She shares her car…
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Phones and Gadgets and Gizmos, Oh My!
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51:11Happy Black Friday, everyone! Time to join in on the shopping frenzy, and fill up your cart with tech tools that meet every conceivable need. If you’re not sure what to get, Dennis and Tom are at the ready with a carefully curated list of the best tech on the market in 2024. They share their recommendations for which phone/tablet upgrades are worth…
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Fresh Voices on Legal Tech with Nicole Morris, Professor at Emory University School of Law
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46:19For another perspective on tech—this time with a focus on law schools, students, and new lawyers—Dennis and Tom welcome Professor Nicole Morris of Emory University School of Law. With her strong connection to future generations of lawyers, Nicole offers insights into the state of tech competence amongst aspiring legal professionals, and, surprising…
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AI and RAG: Hate the Name, Love the Application
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45:41As you may have discovered on your own, genAI tools are ready and enthusiastic with their outputs, but may be woefully ill-informed, in spite of the snappy replies they spew out with unfettered confidence. So, what is being done to remedy this issue? Dennis and Tom explain how Retrieval-Augmented Generation (RAG) combines AI’s LLMs with more curren…
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Fresh Voices on Legal Tech with Megan Ma
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49:25As genAI continues to edge into all facets of our lives, Dr. Megan Ma has been exploring integrations for this technology in legal, but, more importantly, how it can help lawyers and law students hone their legal skills. Dennis and Tom talk with Dr. Ma about her work and career path and many of the latest developments in legal tech. They take a dee…
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Fresh Voices on Legal Tech with Cat Moon
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58:27Lawyers have long been hesitant to adopt technology, but the rapid advancements in generative AI have sparked a new curiosity in many attorneys. Are we heading toward a mindset shift in the profession and a swift increase in tech use? Dennis and Tom welcome Cat Moon to the podcast to get her take on the current state of AI and other technologies in…
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Fresh Voices on Legal Tech with Caitlin McCabe
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36:28Piquing curiosity in legal technology is the first step to helping lawyers engage with and acquire modern tech for their practice. Dennis and Tom welcome Caitlin McCabe to hear her perspectives on inspiring interest and enthusiasm for technology in the legal world. Caitlin discusses her role at BARBRI and how they continue to leverage technology to…
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Fresh Voices on Legal Tech with Amy Conroy
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44:33Amy Conroy has found that communicating the “why” behind data science is critical to helping lawyers understand and appreciate what role it can play in legal practice. Dennis and Tom welcome Amy to discuss her expertise in data, legal AI, and many other aspects of legal technology. Amy shares insights on problem-solving tactics for everyday tasks, …
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Fresh Voices on Legal Tech with Amanda Brown
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39:03How can technology help self-represented litigants have better outcomes in our legal systems? Amanda Brown considers exactly that on a daily basis in her role at the Lagniappe Law Lab, a justice tech non-profit in Louisiana. Dennis and Tom talk with Amanda about her perspectives on the justice gap and legal technology and how tech adoption, collabo…
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Entering the Era of En****tification
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39:38The all-too-common deterioration of internet platforms seems to lead users through a bait and switch that leaves them with little more than a bunch of crap. Why do platforms tend to start off with appealing, engaging features that eventually disappear? Dennis and Tom talk about a recently coined term, which, for the purposes of this podcast, they c…
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Fresh Voices on Legal Tech with Jackie Schafer
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42:52When Jackie Schafer started learning about AI in 2020, she had an intuitive feeling that it was going to bring big changes to the legal profession. Since then, she has worked with AI to improve legal writing technology for greater efficiency and accuracy. Dennis and Tom talk with Jackie about her perspectives on broader legal technology, competency…
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Online Unconferences and Virtual Get-Togethers for Legal Tech
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42:53Is there a need for the legal tech community together for more informal chats about the latest happenings in the industry? Dennis envisions chat sessions, group Zooms, unconferences, and more, but Tom isn’t so sure those types of get-togethers would be appealing to him. They hash out their thoughts on encouraging conversations and idea sharing in t…
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Fresh Voices on Legal Tech with Jack Shepherd
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45:23To gain a new perspective on technology from outside the US, Dennis and Tom welcome UK-based legal business consultant Jack Shepherd. Jack offers his thoughts on how European tech approaches may differ from that in US law firms and talks about competence, tech learning, collaboration, AI trends, and more. As always, stay tuned for the parting shots…
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The Current State of Legal Blogging
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43:15Blogs were a colorful, dynamic part of the internet in their heyday, but how do they fit into our world today? Dennis and Tom take a hard look at the latest trends in legal blogs and whether this form of social media/information sharing is still successfully maintaining its corner of internetland. They discuss their own blogging habits, or lack the…
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Is there a New iPad in your Legal Toolbox?
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42:48There’s a new iPad on the market… Do lawyers need it? New, shiny tech is always a temptation for Dennis and Tom, and right now they’re mulling over this latest Apple offering and whether its potential uses for attorneys make it worth the investment. They discuss reviews, new upgrades, uses in legal practice, laptop/phone/tablet comparisons, and mor…
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Fresh Voices on Legal Tech with Dennis Garcia, Assistant General Counsel at Microsoft
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46:02For tech trends from an in-house perspective, Dennis and Tom welcome Dennis Garcia of Microsoft to their Fresh Voices series. In-house teams are riding the new wave of AI technologies along with the rest of us, but there are unique aspects to their roles in the legal world. Dennis Garcia discusses his team’s approach to AI and other emerging tools,…
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Fresh Voices on Legal Tech with Sarah Glassmeyer
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52:34What if, instead of tech competence being this scary, overwhelming thing, we showed lawyers how to engage with technology in a more lighthearted, even playful, way? The reality is—tech competency doesn’t have an endpoint, but the process of continuous learning shouldn’t be dull and confusing. Sarah Glassmeyer joins Dennis and Tom to talk about her …
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Second Brain Project: The Daily Me
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46:48The second brain is a source of carefully curated information, but what’s the best way to access and interact with that wealth of content day to day? Dennis and Tom unpack the concept of “The Daily Me”—customized daily news—and whether it could be a solution for keeping up with content stored in a second brain. In their next segment, the guys promp…
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Changing Directions on Generative AI?
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45:41Dennis has been ever the optimist about all things GenAI, and Tom was perhaps a bit more skeptical, but have they both changed their tunes? The guys hash out their current perspectives and share how they are applying GenAI in both their work and personal lives. They also caution lawyers to really learn the ins and outs of GenAI tech so they can use…
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Fresh Voices on Legal Tech with Emily Colbert, SVP of Product Management at Thomson Reuters
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33:09A trusted depth of data helps genAI infuse into the legal world more effectively and accurately, but not all genAI is up to scratch. Dennis and Tom talk with Emily Colbert about current AI uses in legal, with particular focus on the integration of AI into the Practical Law tool from Thomson Reuters. Emily discusses the importance of human experts a…
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Fresh Voices on Legal Tech with Tessa Manuello
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46:31Creative thinking and design elements can help you elevate your legal practice and develop more meaningful solutions for clients. Dennis and Tom welcome Tessa Manuello to discuss her insights on legal technology with a particular focus on creative design adaptations for lawyers. Tessa discusses the tech learning process for attorneys and explains h…
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Fresh Voices on Legal Tech with Quinten Steenhuis
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49:48The core of what Quinten Steenhuis does at Suffolk University’s Legal Innovation and Technology Lab is find new ways to help poor people gain access to legal help to work toward closing the justice gap. Dennis and Tom talk with Quinten about his work in this space to learn more about legal tech’s uses and potential for solving large-scale problems …
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Dealing with the Shiny Tech Object Syndrome
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40:47Temptation to immediately buy all the new, shiny, ever-evolving technology can be very difficult to overcome. If you struggle with restraint in your tech purchases, Dennis and Tom are here to help. The guys talk through how to assess your true needs, allocate your tech budget, and make smarter technology purchases. Later, the guys answer the questi…
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