135. NCA's birthday celebrations, Unilever & Caroline Pay's Dentsu Creative move

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Campaign's features editor Matt Barker is joined by creativity and culture editor Gurjit Degun for this week's podcast.

The pair kick things off with a discussion of Unilever's recent call for production crews to be more inclusive when it comes to members of the disability community.

They then look at Caroline Pay joining Dentsu Creative as chief creative officer and what she can expect to be taking on in her now role, as the final piece in the agency's creative team.

Matt interviews the six founding members of New Commerical Arts (along with relative newby Hannah White, managing director) to mark the agency's third anniversary. The team look back on the earliest days, famously under lockdown, reflect on some recent big-name successes and look forward to the next three years.