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John Heilemann
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John Heilemann is a producer and one of the stars of the excellent Showtime series The Circus. He is the co-founder of The Recount and can regularly be seen on MSNBC and NBCNews
John and Mike discuss the likely outcomes for both Democrats and Republicans in 2024; the stench of Donald Trump throughout American politics and why Joe Biden is more likely than ever to run again in 2024 after a hugely successful midterm election
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