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Open Source, Agents, and the Next AI Wave w/ Angie Jones
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Recorded live at All Things Open, Robbie Wagner and guest co-host Jason Lengstorf talk with Angie Jones about AI, coding models, and the evolving landscape of open source. They unpack the importance of community-driven tooling, skill gaps in using AI, the future of agentic systems, and why open communities matter in shaping technology.
In this episode:
- (00:00) - Intro
- (01:18) - Wine rating & review
- (03:30) - Hot Take: Claude vs ChatGPT
- (04:20) - Hot Take: Is HTML a programming language?
- (04:56) - Hot Take: Is CSS a programming language?
- (05:31) - Hot Take: Is AI to blame when people do dumb shit with it?
- (09:50) - How open source shaped Angie’s career
- (14:54) - The problem with AI training on open source data
- (23:02) - What is MCP and why does it matter?
- (25:10) - Using MCP when you don’t follow every part of the spec
- (26:25) - Are we building new walled gardens inside MCP?
- (31:16) - Building DevRel in a rapidly-changing AI landscape
- (36:06) - Conference season stress & preparing new talks
- (39:41) - Where to find Angie online
Links
- Ep 175: Decentralized Identity: The Future of Privacy and Security with Angie Jones: https://whiskey.fm/decentralized-identity-the-future-of-privacy-and-security-with-angie-jones
- Block: https://block.xyz/
- MCP: https://modelcontextprotocol.io/
- Claude: https://claude.ai
- ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/
- HTML: https://www.w3schools.com/html/
- CSS: https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/
- All Things Open: https://allthingsopen.org/
- Microsoft: https://www.microsoft.com/
- GitHub: https://github.com/
- NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/
- GooseAI: https://goose.ai/
- Sam Altman: https://x.com/sama
- Peter Thiel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel
- Marc Andreessen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Andreessen
- Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
- Ember: https://emberjs.com/
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com
- Kent C. Dodds: https://kentcdodds.com/
- Chrome: https://www.google.com/chrome/
- Safari: https://www.apple.com/safari/
- Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/
- DevRelCon: https://developerrelations.com/devrelcon/devrelcon-new-york-2025/
- Angie's keynote at DevRelCon: https://developerrelations.com/talks/devrels-biggest-stage-yet/
Connect with Jason
- Website: https://jason.energy/
- X / Twitter: https://x.com/jlengstorf
Connect with Angie
- Website: https://angiejones.tech
- X / Twitter: https://x.com/techgirl1908
Connect with the hosts
- Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
- Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd
- Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink
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