Design Work is a podcast about creative thinkers who are designing their work, lives and everything in between. Each episode host, Kate Darby, interviews a different trailblazing creative. Design Work is brought to you by Dovetail X — curate and assemble epic creative talent into teams. www.dovetailx.com
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity. Presented by Under The Radar magazine, we interview a wide variety of creative guests who share how their various interests dovetail to create a vibrant life. Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/why-not-both/support
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Zola Jesus on creativity, collaboration, and moving the woods
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WNB Full Circle presents our past interviews with artistic luminaries that explore the ways we can lead our most creative, passionate, multi-faceted lives. We all joke about running away to the woods to live out our creative witchy fantasies but musician Zola Jesus actually did it. She spoke with us about the dynamic tension between being an auteur…
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Kathleen Hanna on creativity and sharing your platform
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WNB Full Circle presents our past interviews with artistic luminaries that explore the ways we can lead our most creative, passionate, multi-faceted lives. Punk rock musician Kathleen Hanna is a feminist icon. From her bands Bikini Kill and Le Tigre to her non profit Tees4Togo, she embodies the kind of multipassionate creative energy that inspires …
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Allison Russell on how community is vital to creativity
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WNB Full Circle presents our past interviews with artistic luminaries that explore the ways we can lead our most creative, passionate, multi-faceted lives. This episode features Grammy award winning musician Allison Russell. In this interview, Allison emphasizes the importance of collaboration and community when it comes to leading a creative life.…
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Julien Baker of Boygenius on queer narratives and diverse creativity
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WNB Full Circle presents our past interviews with artistic luminaries that explore the ways we can lead our most creative, passionate, multi-faceted lives. This episode features musician Julien Baker, a brilliant solo artist and member of the supergroup BoyGenius along with Phoebe Bridgers and Lucy Dacus. In this interview, Julien talks about how w…
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Jensen McRae on creativity, self-compassion, and storytelling
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WNB Full Circle presents interviews with artistic luminaries that explore the ways we can lead our most creative, passionate, multi-faceted lives. This episode features musician, writer, and podcaster Jensen McRae. In this interview, Jensen described how she navigates through life as a professional creative artist by embracing change and exploring …
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Ólafur Arnalds on creative obsession and finding new ways to express old ideas
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WNB Full Circle presents interviews with artistic luminaries that explore the ways we can lead our most creative, passionate, multi-faceted lives. Our first Full Circle episode features Grammy nominated electronic neo-classical musician Ólafur Arnalds, who spoke to us from his hometown of Reykjavik about the importance of slowing down to appreciate…
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Best Of Why Not Both: Zola Jesus x Lauren Mayberry x Kae Tempest
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. Over the years we have interviewed so many amazing guests that we are releasing a series of Best of Why Not Both episodes which feature clips from our favorite cha…
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Best of Why Not Both: Harvey Guillen x Julien Baker x Anjimile
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. Over the years we have interviewed so many amazing guests that we are releasing a series of Best of Why Not Both episodes which feature clips from our favorite cha…
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Best of Why Not Both: David Duchovny x William Shatner x Jon Hopins
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. Over the years we have interviewed so many amazing guests that we are releasing a series of Best of Why Not Both episodes which feature clips from our favorite cha…
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Best of Why Not Both: Devon Gilfillian x Allison Russell
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. Over the years we have interviewed so many amazing guests that we are releasing a series of Best of Why Not Both episodes which feature clips from our favorite cha…
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Best of Why Not Both: Aurora x Sudan Archives x HANA
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. Over the years we have interviewed so many amazing guests that we are releasing a series of Best of Why Not Both episodes which feature clips from our favorite chats. Th…
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Bonus Ep 8: How Jeffrey Leiser made the ultimate Icelandic opera
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We got to chat with Jeffrey Leiser about why he decided that he absolutely had to make Freydís and Gudrid, an Icelandic opera film, the magic of sound design, and how he wants to set a positive example of a life well lived for his kids. Did we catch your interest? You can also keep up with Jeffrey's work at Albino Fawn Productions and on Instagram.…
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Ep 131: Elias Rønnenfelt of Iceage on how death is the ultimate boss
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. We partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Between wild adventures on Russian trains and music fans with mac…
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Ep 130: Harper Simon x Julia Holter on creativity, crime and medieval love affairs
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. We partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. We chatted with Harper Simon and Julia Holter about medieval love…
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Ep 129: Tove Lo on creative joy and the magic of body acceptance
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. We partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Tove Lo spent a fair bit of time in her youth fighting with her b…
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Ep 128: S.G. Goodman on powerful songs and political activism
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. We partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. In an increasingly divisive landscape, S.G. Goodman makes music t…
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Ep 127: Eerie Wanda and the art of near death experiences
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. We partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Near death experiences, unusual moments, and novel drum parts are…
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Ep 126: Bryce Drew on collaboration and the importance of leading a colorful life
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. We partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Bryce Drew has moved around to many colorful locations, from her …
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Ep 125: John Darnielle of the Mountain Goats on creativity and absurdity
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. We partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. John Darnielle lives purely in the creative moment, whether he is…
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Ep 124: MØ on music and microcosms
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. We partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. As a songwriter and artist, MØ is not so secretly everywhere, wit…
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Ep 123: Dana Schwartz and Korama Danquah on vampires, historical accuracy, and being terminally online
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. We partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Best selling author/podcast host/journalist Dana Schwartz and wri…
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Ep 122: Pony Sweat on the tender magic of dance aerobics
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. We partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Emilia Richeson is the magical musical mind behind Pony Sweat, th…
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Ep 121: Why Zola Jesus moved to the woods
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Sometimes you have to retrace your steps to…
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Ep 120: Ellie Pritts on collaborating with AI, following your intuition and the importance of frogs
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. You know that friend introduces you to bran…
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Ep 119: Stoya on making art you love, valuing mental health, and dressing up as your favorite wrestler
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. As a sexual content creator, columnist, aut…
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Katie Thiroux brings a beautiful sense of calm strength to all she pursues, from jazz festivals to teaching at USC. We got to chat about how she cultivated a collection of music students around the world over the last few years during the pandemic and the importance of embracing the different seasons of life we find ourselves in. It's a gift gettin…
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Ep 118: Nabil Ayers on accidentally writing a book and running a record label
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Nabil Ayers didn't set out to write a book …
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Ep 117: Mal Blum on life, death, and power tools
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Sometimes you have to hop into someone else…
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. How do you have a private life when the per…
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Ep 115: Simone Merli of Soundwalk Collective
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Geography is often a vital collaborator for…
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Kae Tempest has an obsession with words, th…
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. What if our sensitivity is actually our gre…
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Bonus Ep 6: Gay Hollywood
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fourth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Neurodivergence and music and mental healt…
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. John Vanderslice is really onto something t…
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Yoni Wolf found himself missing the connect…
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Ep 110: Hrishikesh Hirway of "Song Exploder"
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Our guest Hrishikesh Hirway embodies the et…
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Rebecca of Self Esteem chatted with us abou…
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Jenny Hval wasted no time hopping straight …
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Although he never set out to be a musician,…
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. While chatting with Jensen McRae, we discov…
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Ep 105: Eno of Ibibio Sound Machine
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Music gives us hope and few people know thi…
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Actress and activist Amber Iman made histor…
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Musician Tasha describes the magic that com…
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Ep 102: Lauren Mayberry of CHVRCHES
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fifth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. When Lauren Mayberry of CHVRCHES sat down t…
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fourth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Psychologist Dr. Mike thought that he bomb…
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fourth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Sometimes chaos and play are the best ingr…
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fourth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. It was such a gift to spend time with Yola…
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Ep 100: Melissa Auf der Maur
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fourth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Melissa Auf der Maur leads a fairytale lif…
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fourth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Jon Hopkins jumped straight into our inter…
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Ep 98: John Linnell of They Might Be Giants
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Why Not Both is an exploration of how our multiple passions shape our identity, hosted by musician and therapist Pam Shaffer and produced by writer and photographer Laura Studarus. For our fourth season, we partnered up with Under The Radar to explore the lives of musicians, writers, actors, and creatives. Over the last several decades, They Might …
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