Scale and grow your agency with better clients, invested employees, and a stronger bottom line, with Drew McLellan.
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The Sell with Authority Podcast is all about helping marketing agencies sell more of what they do for a higher price. How do you attract a steady stream of well-prepared prospects into your sales pipeline? How do you step away from the sea of competitors so you stand out? How do you price your services? How do you get clients to say yes to your proposal? Each episode contains valuable insights, recommendations, and tangible examples of best practices — not theoretical prose. Every step — eve ...
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An interview show from your friends at Smashing Magazine. Drew McLellan and Vitaly Friedman talk to design and development experts about their work on the web, as well as catching you up with the latest news and articles at Smashing Magazine. Suitable for cats.
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Most gurus won’t admit that winning ideal clients for your agency is hard. But it’s a lot easier and more predictable when you learn from the right people. Every week, The Digital Agency Growth Podcast comes at you with in-the-trenches stories from agency, brand, and technology leaders to cover HOW new business is getting done, and the possible WHY’s justifying all our hard work. This top 10 ranked podcast in over 10 countries is brought to you by Sales Schema. Learn more about Sales Schema ...
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Tune in for conversations with eclectic and enlivening marketers. Imagine your weird shower thoughts and disparate liberal arts references took a road trip. This podcast is the soundtrack. Great marketing ideas can come from anywhere. So let’s talk about some.
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EP 465: The five things agency owners do that block agency growth with Drew McLellan
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Every agency should be able to run at 20% profitability on a consistent basis. But as agency owners, sometimes we get in our own way and become the bottleneck to our agency growth. For this week’s solocast, I’m breaking down the five biggest things agency owners do to stifle their agency’s growth. Whether it’s not being able to get out of the day-t…
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How to Nurture Leads with Excellence, with Stephen Woessner
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Welcome to the Sell with Authority Podcast – I’m Stephen Woessner, CEO of Predictive ROI. If we happen to be meeting for the first time — Predictive ROI helps agency owners and their teams sell more of what they do…typically for a higher fee. We do that by helping our clients build an authority position in the niche they’ve decided to serve — and t…
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Jon Tsourakis on Leveraging Team Dynamics and Client Relationships for Agency Success
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Whether or not to niche down is an age-old agency question and comes with lots of things to consider. But have you considered your team’s dynamic in preferences when taking on clients and forming relationships? Friend of the show Jon Tsourakis is back again this week to talk about how his team helps focus the niches the company focuses on, insights…
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How to Price Creatively, with Blair Enns
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For this episode of Sell With Authority we are doubling down on value-based pricing to help you future-proof your agency. Our guest expert is a true authority when it comes to pricing and sales strategy. Blair Enns, the CEO of Win Without Pitching and the author of the widely acclaimed Win Without Pitching Manifesto joins the podcast. His latest bo…
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EP 464: Merging storytelling with sales for decreased sales cycles with Stephen Steers
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For many agency owners, sales is a necessary evil. For others, it’s your natural gift, and you look forward to doing it. Either way, you can always benefit from making it easier and better for you. One of the biggest benefits we cover in today’s episode is shortening the sales cycle. Many agencies struggled with elongated sales cycles last year, bu…
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For this episode of Sell With Authority, we’ve got something really special lined up for you — something we’ve never done before. We’re calling it a “Fireside Chat.” It’s a more laid-back, informal conversation, but packed with expert insights on a crucial topic for your agency’s success — strategic partnerships. Also in the category of things we’v…
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Mandi Ellefson on Becoming a Hands-Off CEO
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When scaling an agency, the CEO is usually deeply ingrained. But CEOs are supposed to work on the business rather than in the business, right? So how can a CEO make their agency scalable and run smoothly without them being present in the company's day-to-day operations? Mandi Ellefson of the Hands-Off CEO is here to offer her insights and guidance …
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EP 463: Successful podcasting from the audience’s perspective with Tom Webster
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We’ve spoken before about how podcasting is a great tool for building an audience that sees you as a thought leader. That’s still true, but simply having a podcast is not enough. To truly be successful in podcasting, you must know how to engage that audience and be worthy of their time. As our guest Tom Weber says, “You don’t have a right to have a…
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No Friction Lead Generation, with Stephen Woessner
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Today’s episode of the podcast is a solocast so that you and I could take a strategy from last week’s episode and explore it with more depth. Last week — you may recall — I shared that one of the strategies that we taught during our July Intensive was what we call “No Friction Lead Generation.” When you have built up enough trust, respect, and auth…
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EP 462: Niching and thought leadership — the most critical components of biz dev with Susan Quinn
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As agency owners, we’re always looking for ways to improve our business development strategies and stand out in a crowded marketplace. This week, I’m flipping the script and sharing an episode where I was a guest on Susan Quinn’s podcast, Better Experiences by Design. Susan asks some great questions to help get to the bottom of the two main biz dev…
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Debrief and takeaways from the July Intensive, with Stephen Woessner
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Last week (July 30th and 31st) — my Predictive team and I hosted our latest “2-day Intensive.” Every March, July, and November — we get our Predictive clients together for an “Intensive” where we peel back the curtain and share the results of the most recent experiment in the Lab, the actual results, and how to install it into their agencies. We pr…
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Mike Brevik on Guerrilla Marketing, Nostalgia, and Building a Unique Agency Culture
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We all know that trends in everything, especially marketing, come and go quickly. But just because a certain style or type of marketing isn’t in vogue in 2024 doesn’t mean it isn’t worthwhile. With the marketing landscape moving at a fast pace, it can be helpful to look at past techniques to see what worked in the past and how you can apply it to y…
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EP 461: Collaborating with clients in our systems and processes with Xenia Muntean
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Systems and processes are a tough nut to crack for agency owners, and it’s even more challenging once you get clients involved. Many of us are accidental agency owners who thrive in the chaos and disarray of agency life but know that operating this way will reduce profitability. This week, we’re sitting down with Xenia Muntean to share her journey …
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How to Use Strategic Lenses for Niching Down, with Hannah Roth
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I am thrilled about this episode of Sell With Authority because it is super fun — and ridiculously helpful! Hannah Roth, our mad scientist and strategist at Predictive, is back for another episode to debunk the myth that niching down is just about picking an industry. Hannah has been diving into the latest Agency Edge research report. We walk throu…
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EP 460: Four things we need to make sales easier as agency owners with Drew McLellan
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As agency owners, one of the things we fundamentally get wrong in sales is how heavily trust plays a role in the process. We’re selling intangible services and solutions to people with a high price tag, and we expect prospects to trust that we’ll deliver on our promises. It’s a risky proposition, especially for the ones putting their trust (and wal…
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Beyond Acronyms: Unfiltered Marketing Takes with Devin Bramhall and Margaret Kelsey
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Devin Bramhall and Margaret Kelsey, the co-hosts of Don't Say Content, bring their frank perspectives to bear on everything from how we should be measuring brand marketing, to the uncanny valleys of AI, to why marketers need to stop blaming their orgs.De către Steve Pockross
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How to select the right CRM for your agency, with Erik Jensen
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This episode is going to be one of those episodes where you ask yourself… “What in the world was that!?! – because that was ridiculously fun and super helpful!” My guest expert today is Erik Jensen. In case you’re meeting Erik for the first time — he’s my business partner here at Predictive ROI, and we’ve worked alongside each other for well over a…
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Josh Ledgard on Unlocking the Power of Word-of-Mouth and Effective Referral Marketing
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Almost all businesses start getting clients based on referrals. And while that might feel less necessary as your business grows, referral marketing offers you a lot of options to make yourself stand out among your competitors, grow your email lists, and so much more. Josh Ledgard, founder of KickoffLabs, is here today to talk about how to take adva…
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EP 459: Creating positive momentum and taking control over your work day with Jason Yarusi
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Agency owners have it tough these days, but we have more control over how hard it is for us than we think. This week, we’re going to talk in-depth about how we can change the course and direction of our business by changing our habits and mindsets. To help us, we’re talking to Jason Yarusi about creating positive momentum around breaking bad habits…
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How to Design Your Digital Marketing Success Plan, with Corey Morris
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My guest on this episode of Sell With Authority has spent nearly 20 years working in strategic and leadership roles focused on growing national and local client brands with award-winning, ROI-generating digital strategies. Corey Morris, President and CEO of Voltage returns for an encore interview. Corey recently released his new book, The Digital M…
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EP 458: Building a better pitch deck that gets you hired with Tom Martin
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When you’re stacked against other agencies with the same awards, credentials, and impressive case studies as you, it’s tough to stand out above the rest. But with the right pitch deck, you’re sure to catch the attention of your ideal clients. This week, Tom Martin is teaching us a few things about crafting the perfect pitch deck that moves beyond j…
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The Sales Crucible and How to Build One, with Stephen Woessner
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For this episode of Sell With Authority — I break down a sales strategy that we’ve used here at Predictive for nearly a decade — but not until recently — did we build a framework around it. We call it the “Sales Crucible” — and I will tell you — whenever we have a new service line to begin selling here at Predictive – I design what we call a “Sales…
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Raul Hernandez Ochoa on Positioning Your Agency for Maximum Growth
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There is so much information out there on growing and scaling your agency that it can be easy to lose sight of the strategies that matter most: offering your clients stellar results and making your services stand out in the market so you can find the clients that are the best match for you. Friend of the show Raul Hernandez Ochoa is here today with…
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EP 457: Building the ideal agency-CMO relationship with Liza Adams
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CMOs have a lot on their plates, and similar to agency owners, their role can be lonely in the C-Suite. Because of this, CMOs rely heavily on agency partnerships to keep them in the know. To help us understand the crucial role of agency-CMO relationships, Liza Adams is giving us an inside look at what it’s really like to be a CMO—what they value in…
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Skeptical thought leadership will work for you?, with Stephen Woessner
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For this episode of Sell With Authority, we’re shaking things up a bit. Instead of our usual format — I’ve got something special in store for you. Why this twist, you might wonder? There are a few reasons I’m excited to share with you. But before we dive in — have you heard about our upcoming July Intensive? Three times a year — we get our Predicti…
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EP 456: What agency owners get wrong about recruiting top talent with Michael Palma
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The glamor of working for an agency has worn off somewhat since the 80s and 90s. Markets are more saturated, salaries have stagnated, and recruiting top talent has become more difficult — especially since Covid. As agency owners, that means we have to adjust our process to find and hire top talent to meet our clients’ needs. To help us understand a…
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How to Grow Your Agency Through Community and Collaboration, with Jay Owen
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I’m thrilled to welcome Jay Owen to this episode of Sell With Authority. Jay is the Founder and CEO of Business Builders, and this is a bit of an encore because Jay and I connected a few years ago for episode 777 of Onward Nation. Today’s conversation is packed with insights you can apply to your own agency — to help you sell more effectively by fo…
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Chelsea Olsen on Building Sustainable Agency Growth with Email and LinkedIn
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Sustainable agency growth is possible for an agency of any size. The keys to success? Generating qualified leads and structuring sales teams who understand your business, want to see themselves and your company succeed, and have the capacity to rise to the challenge. Chelsea Olsen is here today to talk about her work as a Fractional Chief Growth Of…
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Finding Clarity in Times of Uncertainty with Suneet Bhatt
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Suneet is an industry veteran who has led marketing teams, successfully earned B Corp certifications, and dabbled in venture capital. This conversation is a masterclass on what positive, effective leadership looks like in the current age.De către Steve Pockross
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EP 455: The trends that affect agency owners and employees in 2024 with Drew and Danyel McLellan
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In the last solocast, we reviewed the agency trends that most affected agency AGI in 2023. This week, we’re pulling back the curtain on the major trends rocking agency owners and their teams in 2024 — and giving you tips to stay ahead of them. We’ll give you a reality check on misguided expectations around agency valuations and sales. And we’ll exp…
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Email Writing Workshop, with Stephen Woessner
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Welcome to the Sell with Authority Podcast – I’m Stephen Woessner, CEO of Predictive ROI. If we happen to be meeting for the first time — Predictive ROI helps agency owners and their teams sell more of what they do…typically for a higher fee. We do that by helping our clients build an authority position in the niche they’ve decided to serve — and t…
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EP 454: Improving client-agency trust and other takeaways from the 2024 Agency Edge Research study with Susan Baier
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Every year, we go out into the field to understand the biggest pain points and priorities for both agencies and clients. This year, we took data from the 2024, 2019, and 2014 Agency Edge Research studies to compare how client expectations have changed over the years. This year, the burning issue was client-agency trust — what clients look for in an…
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How to close sales without closing, with Stephen Woessner
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Welcome to the Sell with Authority Podcast – I’m Stephen Woessner, CEO of Predictive ROI. If we happen to be meeting for the first time — Predictive ROI helps agency owners and their teams sell more of what they do…typically for a higher fee. We do that by helping our clients build an authority position in the niche they’ve decided to serve — and t…
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Ethan McCarty on Insights into the Evolving Employee Experience and the Importance of Curiosity
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So many of our conversations here on the Digital Agency Growth podcast are about the businesses and clients we serve. But one important group often overlooked is the employees, both those of our clients and of our own. Ethan McCarty makes employee experience and excellence his priority at Integral, creating award-winning programs that inspire and m…
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EP 453: Getting up to speed with the new FTC non-compete rule with Sharon Toerek
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The FTC has recently passed regulations against non-compete clauses on a federal level in all work contracts. Starting in the fall of 2024, agencies will have new rules to comply with regarding their employees and independent contractors. This will be a big shake-up for many agency owners, but luckily, Sharon Toerek is always by our side to walk us…
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How to Design Your HERO Offer, with Jane Pfeiffer
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For this episode of Sell With Authority, I am thrilled to welcome back Jane Pfeiffer, the brilliant Founder and President of Fieldtrip, for an encore interview. Jane and her team have developed a new service offering that’s a game-changer for clients and prospects in their niche. We discuss how to design a service offering that is limited in scope,…
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EP 452: Expanding your agency talent pool with international employees with Kim Walker
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Agency owners who want to scale their business often run into a chicken-and-egg situation. To scale and grow sustainably, you need to hire more people. But to be able to hire more people, you need to scale and grow to have the money to do so. This is where hiring international employees can help solve your problems. This week, we’re diving into the…
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