Episode 29: Ray Hillis, a true elder returns

Earth Converse Podcast

What realities are you exploring?

I feel very grateful that ‘true elder’ Ray Hillis who I interviewed on episode 14 of the #earthconversepodcast, has returned for this courageous conversation. To explore pathways to consciousness, psyche and the soul, focusing on hallucinogenics, art and dreams.

In doing so he highlights the difference between reality and consensual reality.

Enroute we talk about the current context, miracles, disruptors and change. We also explore cognitive enhancing drugs in the workplace and cannabis justice being racial and environmental justice. And archetypes and ego.

A ‘mind blowing’ conversational opportunity with a wise and wonderful soul.

So many gems including…

“These forces of change are tapping into what wants to be born”

“What is out there is relative to who is there to see it”

“One of the attractions of having a psychedelic experience is the way you get an opportunity to let go of consensual reality for a time”

“Getting too tightly locked into a consensual reality prevents exploring art”

“We have a sacred responsibility to live the life we have been given”

“The ego desperately wants to feel what we do know”

“Ultimately we don’t know what reality is”

“Learning to give the ego courage to let go”

EPISODE EXTRAS:…so many resources here

On Being with Krista Tippett (5 November 2020) Karen Murphy The Long View, II: On Who We Can Become https://onbeing.org/programs/karen-murphy-the-long-view-ii-on-who-we-can-become/

The Social Dilemma (2020), Netflix https://www.netflix.com/es-en/title/81254224

Soulcraft by Bill Plotkin https://animas.org/books/

Lucy (2014) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_(2014_film)

Yuval Noah Harari (2014) Sapiens: A brief history of Human Kind https://www.ynharari.com/book/sapiens-2/

If a tree falls in the forest, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_a_tree_falls_in_a_forest

Green Earth Foundation (the website of Ralph Metzner who Ray mentioned): https://www.greenearthfound.org

Amos Lozano quote on cannabis justice: https://www.intersectionalenvironmentalist.com/cannabis

Carl Cederström (2016), Like It or Not, “Smart Drugs” Are Coming to the Office, Harvard Business Review, May 19, 2016. https://hbr.org/2016/05/like-it-or-not-smart-drugs-are-coming-to-the-office

Charles Eisenstein, (2013) A New Story of the People: Charles Eisenstein at TEDxWhitechapel. 13 Feb 2013,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjoxh4c2Dj0

Reefer Madness (1936) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhQlcMHhF3w

Erich Neumann (1955) The Great Mother https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Mother

Carl Jung https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Jung

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