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❌ Extreme Testing
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Iteration — A weekly podcast about programming, development, and design through the lens of amazing books, chapter-by-chapter.
This episode uses Chapter 13 of Extreme programing as a jumping off point
Testing Early, Often, and Automated
Here is the dilemma in software development: defects are expensive, but eliminating defects is also expensive.
- Instead of talking about having a kick-ass automated test suite, frequently testing code, and all of that good stuff, we should talk about something a little different.
Q: What was the last big bug you can think of? How did you handle it?
- Health coaching group discussions, mobile users could not post into group discussions for 48 hours. It’s a core feature of the platform.
- React Native Upgrade → Weird android bug where people could not take a photo to upload their proof of funds
Q: What was the reason for the latest big bug?
- lack of automated integration tests in the Mobile app.
- We have some unit testing we also have full API tests, but not enough coverage in the integration.
- We made a small change to the group discussion model, the mobile app wasn’t updated to consider this change, timing the rollout.
- Android Weirdness, lack of QA, rushing to get to the latest and greatest
Q: How do you handle bugs in general?
- Testing is first line of defense.
- QA is backup (One other dev)
- App signal is the catch all (After deployment)
- Users are the last line of defense RABBITHOLE
- Give users a clear escape hatch / line of communication.
- So many times we’ve caught flawed design assumptions from that feedback. Users love it too.
- Superlative language "Thank you so much, you are the best, we really really appreciate you sending that in and I'm so sorry if you are having issues. "
Q: John Ask: What’s the most common causes of bugs?
- Test data does not properly represent production data - phone formats / etc
- An Edge case that wasn’t considered
- The feature functions properly but the functionality is wrong / not what the stakeholder intended.
- Rollout was not planned, data transition or all platforms are not in sync.
- Browser or context considerations. Mobile vs tablet / android device universe.
- Lack of QA, lack of tests
- Rushing things
John — Summary / Thoughts on book overall
- Overall got the most out of this vs other books we've read
Picks
- JP: Heroku! Review Apps (spins up a new app every time a PR is opened); Pipelines
- John: Contentful + Rails to give clients ability to update copy and images on marketing pages.
78 episoade
Manage episode 243311288 series 1900125
Iteration — A weekly podcast about programming, development, and design through the lens of amazing books, chapter-by-chapter.
This episode uses Chapter 13 of Extreme programing as a jumping off point
Testing Early, Often, and Automated
Here is the dilemma in software development: defects are expensive, but eliminating defects is also expensive.
- Instead of talking about having a kick-ass automated test suite, frequently testing code, and all of that good stuff, we should talk about something a little different.
Q: What was the last big bug you can think of? How did you handle it?
- Health coaching group discussions, mobile users could not post into group discussions for 48 hours. It’s a core feature of the platform.
- React Native Upgrade → Weird android bug where people could not take a photo to upload their proof of funds
Q: What was the reason for the latest big bug?
- lack of automated integration tests in the Mobile app.
- We have some unit testing we also have full API tests, but not enough coverage in the integration.
- We made a small change to the group discussion model, the mobile app wasn’t updated to consider this change, timing the rollout.
- Android Weirdness, lack of QA, rushing to get to the latest and greatest
Q: How do you handle bugs in general?
- Testing is first line of defense.
- QA is backup (One other dev)
- App signal is the catch all (After deployment)
- Users are the last line of defense RABBITHOLE
- Give users a clear escape hatch / line of communication.
- So many times we’ve caught flawed design assumptions from that feedback. Users love it too.
- Superlative language "Thank you so much, you are the best, we really really appreciate you sending that in and I'm so sorry if you are having issues. "
Q: John Ask: What’s the most common causes of bugs?
- Test data does not properly represent production data - phone formats / etc
- An Edge case that wasn’t considered
- The feature functions properly but the functionality is wrong / not what the stakeholder intended.
- Rollout was not planned, data transition or all platforms are not in sync.
- Browser or context considerations. Mobile vs tablet / android device universe.
- Lack of QA, lack of tests
- Rushing things
John — Summary / Thoughts on book overall
- Overall got the most out of this vs other books we've read
Picks
- JP: Heroku! Review Apps (spins up a new app every time a PR is opened); Pipelines
- John: Contentful + Rails to give clients ability to update copy and images on marketing pages.
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