Sneaking your way into hacking the Humans, with special guest Jenny Radcliffe

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Episode Summary

Jenny Radcliffe, a social engineer and known as the People Hacker, was recently inducted into the Infosecurity Europe Hall of Fame. Jenny is also an award winning podcast host and a conference speaker where she provides knowledge, expertise and insights on security, education and awareness to people around the world. In this episode of the Security Masterminds podcast, Jenny discusses her experience in the industry and how social engineering has changed over time. She also shares some tips on how to put together a team for a social engineering job, as well as some of her biggest social engineering failures and what she learned from them..
In this episode, you will learn the following:
1. The art and science of social engineering, and the importance of continuous learning.
2. The evolution of social engineering over time, and the need for diversification.
3. The importance of self-discipline in social engineering, and the need for details.

Jenny Radcliffe, The People Hacker

Jenny Radcliffe is a world-renowned Social Engineer hired to bypass security systems through a mixture of psychology, con-artistry, cunning, and guile. A "burglar" for hire and entertaining educator, she has spent a lifetime talking her way into secure locations, protecting clients from scammers, and leading simulated criminal attacks on organizations of all sizes to help secure money, data, and information from malicious attacks.

Jenny was recognized as one of the top 25 Women in Cyber in 2020 by IT Security Guru and as a Top 50 Women of Influence in Cyber in 2019. She was nominated for the prestigious "Godmother of Security" award in 2020 and won the "Most Educational Security Blog 2020." Most recently, Woman of Influence & a Top 30 Cybersecurity Leader.

Jenny is also the host of the award-winning podcast "The Human Factor," interviewing industry leaders, bloggers, experts, fellow social engineers, and con-artists about all elements of security and preventing people from becoming victims of malicious social engineering.

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenny-radcliffe-the-people-hacker-%F0%9F%8E%A4%F0%9F%8E%A7%F0%9F%A7%A0-85ba1611/
• Website: https://humanfactorsecurity.co.uk/
• Twitter: https://twitter.com/Jenny_Radcliffe
• Podcast: https://humanfactorsecurity.co.uk/category/the-human-factor/

Show Links

• Jenny's Darknet Diaries episode: https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/90/
• Matthieu Ricard (Happy Monk) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthieu_Ricard

KnowBe4 Resources

• KnowBe4 Blog - https://blog.knowbe4.com
• Erich Kron - https://www.linkedin.com/in/erichkron
• Jelle Wieringa - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jellewieringa
• James McQuiggan, Producer - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmcquiggan
• Javvad Malik, Producer - https://www.linkedin.com/in/javvad
• Music Composed by: Brian Sanyshyn - https://www.briansanyshynmusic.com
• Announcer: Sarah McQui

Capitole

1. Introductions (00:00:00)

2. How did you end up in cybersecurity, hacking humans? (00:01:52)

3. How has Social Engineering Evolved? (00:03:32)

4. With Social Engineering do you focus on the Cyber or Physical? (00:06:20)

5. What are some lessons learned from SE failures? (00:09:38)

6. What goes into making the Deception Work? (00:12:22)

7. What is involved in putting together a team? (00:15:31)

8. What is the Timeframe to prep for a job? (00:18:55)

9. What was the impact of COVID on your Social Engineering Jobs? (00:23:20)

10. How long does it take to hack the human? (00:28:00)

11. How does emotion impact the mark? (00:31:24)

12. How do you shape behaviors to protect against Social Engineering? (00:33:13)

13. How can people find you? (00:36:23)