Confronting Modern Torah Movements - A Chat with Andrew Schumacher

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Apologist and Christian thinker Andrew Schumacher recently joined me for a wide-ranging conversation. Of course, we discussed the recent controversies over the question "Are animal sacrifices, still required to atone for sin?" But also how to approach our Torah-keeping friends: Is there a path to unity? What makes something a false gospel? What is the theological range of the various strains of Torahism: Hebrew Roots, Pronomian, Torah-observant, Torah keepers, etc. Enjoy!
Important Retraction: I have officially and publicly retracted my accusation that the “Torah-keeping” position on future sin sacrifices is a false gospel. I’ve come to realize that most Torah-keeping teachers aren’t claiming that salvation hangs on the end times sin sacrifices, and therefore their position is technically not a false gospel; it’s not an alternate way to be saved. In hindsight, I was wrong and uncharitable in categorizing it that way, and I apologize to anyone who felt maligned. My goal is always to offer an accurate and fair defense of biblical Christianity, and I overreached in my categorization of this issue.
I maintain that the idea of future sin sacrifices contradicts the NT (Heb. 10:18) and impugns the sufficiency of Christ’s “once for all” sacrifice (Rom. 6:10, Heb. 7:27, 9:12, 9:26, 10:10), which covered all sin for all time. However, that idea does not rise to the level of a false gospel. I’ve chosen not to take down this video because I still believe it to be a biblical and necessary part of this conversation, and I stand by everything it teaches and exposes, with the sole exception of the “false gospel” classification.
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Prof. Solberg
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction: Meet Andrew
01:33 The Spectrum of Torah-keeping Beliefs
05:29 The Range of Views on the Sacrifices
09:54 Where is the line for a False Gospel?
21:49 Steelman Arguments
25:11 The Hebrew Roots Motivation
26:59 Biases and Changing Our Minds
32:57 The Faux Simplicity of Torahism
34:30 The Good & Bad of Hebrew Roots
39:15 The Torah Under Christ
52:35 Mischaracterizations
53:59 Is There A Path to Unity?