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The JABO Podcast

The JABO Podcast

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The official podcast of FOX Sports' Just a Bit Outside baseball site (JABO). Former MLB pitcher C.J. Nitkowski and writer Rob Neyer bring you a weekly podcast focusing on the hot topics of the week with a spin that's just a bit different than the rest.
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In The End of Sport, academics Derek Silva, Johanna Mellis, and Nathan Kalman-Lamb provide critical commentary, analysis, and interviews on sport and society. The End of Sport Podcast raises questions about the role of sport in our daily lives and whether or not we can reimagine sport and sporting cultures in the future.
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The Be Effective Podcast hosts conversations with some of the best trainers and instructors in the policing industry, where we discuss everything from law enforcement, training, current critical incidents, and wherever else the conversation goes. The Be Effective Podcast is hosted by Adam Haidary, the Founder & CEO of PolicePosts, Effective Fitness Training (EFT), and Effective Fitness Combatives (EFC).
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In this episode, Nathan is joined by John 'Jabo' Burrow and Kathleen Bachynski to talk about the horrific run of football-related deaths at US schools. Nathan explains what has transpired before jumping in with Jabo to discuss his reactions and how they relate to his own experiences in and observations of football. Then Kathleen joins to help relat…
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Dave Zirin and Jules Boykoff return to the show to discuss the experience of covering one of the most eventful Olympics ever. We discuss their most lasting takeaways from the Games, things you had to be there to understand, how these Olympics compared to past experiences, and all of the other newsworthy stories you might imagine, from questions of …
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Stephen Casper joins Derek and Nathan to explore the history of concussion and interrogate the various conflicts of interest and ethical permutations that allow a particular form of health harm that has been largely understood for a century to nevertheless continuously be framed as uncertain. Check out this New Yorker story drawing on Stephen's res…
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In this emergency episode, Nathan is joined by friend and colleague Celeste Orr (in person!) to deconstruct the rightwing meltdown over the defeat of Italian welterweight boxer Angela Carini by Algerian Imane Khelif. The discussion situates the controversy by tracing the history of gender verification, delving into the science of sex, gender, and s…
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Dr. Wayne Black joins Derek and Nathan to discuss his research program studying college athletics and debate key questions around coercion, agency, and how to move beyond the current system of exploitation and harm. Dr. Wayne Black is an Assistant Professor of Sport Administration at the University of Cincinnati. His research centers on understandi…
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Jules Boykoff joins Derek and Nathan to discuss his new book What Are the Olympics For? The conversation delves into both the fundamental problems that beset the quadrennial athletic spectacle and the forms of resistance and protest that it is spawned, as well as how all of these issues manifest specifically in the context of the upcoming Paris Gam…
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In this episode, Derek is joined by Leyla Hamed, a sports journalist and Editor in Chief at the The Athletic FC. As one of the very few pro-Palestinian advocates in sports media, I can’t think of many folks better than Leyla to talk about media complicity in this ongoing genocide and the role that sports media should be taking in putting pressure o…
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Former Vanderbilt offensive lineman John "Jabo" Burrow joins Nathan to candidly discuss how his experiences in college football connect to the themes of Nathan and Derek's forthcoming book The End of College Football: On the Human Cost of an All-American Game. This one's a banger. You can preorder The End of College Football from UNC Press here and…
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Former Vanderbilt offensive lineman John "Jabo" Burrow joins Nathan to candidly discuss how his experiences in college football connect to the themes of Nathan and Derek's forthcoming book The End of College Football: On the Human Cost of an All-American Game. This one's a banger. You can preorder The End of College Football from UNC Press here and…
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Slate columnist and award-winning Slow Burn host Joel Anderson joins to discuss the massive explosion of sports gambling, recent scandals involving Shohei Ohtani and Jontay Porter, and all the attendant harms. Check out his prescient recent column here: https://slate.com/business/2024/02/sports-betting-huge-rise-whats-coming.html. The End of Sport …
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In this episode, Nathan and Derek sit down with Palestinian National Soccer Team member Charlotte Phillips to talk about what it is like to represent Palestine during the ongoing genocide of Palestinians in Gaza, the student protest movement, and the role that athletes can (and must) take in the fight for Palestinian liberation. Charlotte Phillips …
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Michael McCann joins Derek and Nathan to examine how the law is shaping the landscape of college sports today. We discuss the recent settlement agreement that will reshape questions around compensation, NLRB developments with respect to employee status, and the role of Congress and the Supreme Court in it all. Michael McCann is a Legal Analyst and …
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In this episode, Derek and Nathan are joined by University of Michigan soccer player Uriel Zeitz to discuss the role of campus athletic workers in the anti-genocide encampment movement. Uriel breaks down the encampment politics at Michigan, conversations he's had with other athletes at the university and beyond, and how he is organizing for athlete…
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In this episode, Derek and Nathan are immensely privileged to be joined by UCLA historian Robin D. G. Kelley for a discussion of the remarkable and obscene events that took place at the UCLA anti-genocide encampment and an assessment of the encampment movement in the context of the neoliberal university and racial capitalism more broadly. We also t…
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In this special non-sports episode, Nathan speaks to Columbia University graduate student Jon Ben-Menachem about the Columbia University student anti-genocide encampment. The conversation offers a primer for those less familiar with the encampment movement and an insider perspective for those who already are. Jon Ben-Menachem is a PhD candidate in …
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David Berri joins all three hosts to unpack a subject that is perhaps as or more relevant than any other in the world of sport right now and also one we have not yet adequately explored on the show: the political economy of women’s sport. We discuss how value is produced and distributed in women’s sport, including the issue of fandom (the market of…
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In this episode, Derek and Nathan chat with Dr. Madeleine Orr about why any conversation about justice, harm, and sport needs to account for the unfolding climate catastrophe. Dr. Madeleine Orr is an assistant professor of sport ecology in the Faculty of Kinesiology & Physical Education at the University of Toronto focused on the intersection of sp…
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Nathan is joined by Colleen English and Daniel Sailofsky to dig deep into the concepts of hegemonic and inclusive masculinities and unpack which of these concepts offers a more persuasive and accurate theoretical frame for grappling with gender in critical sports studies. Colleen English is Associate Professor and Chair of Kinesiology at Penn State…
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**This episode contains discussions of sexual violence** In this episode, Johanna offers an initial analysis of how cisgender, white, and heterosexual sexual assault and predators and sport contribute to the anti-trans movement. Where do we see this happening most clearly? Swimming, which you may have guessed if you’re familiar with the work of Fra…
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This episode is an interview that friend and repeat guest of the podcast, Karleigh Chardonnay Webb, did with Johanna in August 2023. Karleigh is an Outsports contributor and co-host of the Transition Defense podcast. She interviewed Johanna to analyze Hungary's sportswashing in light of Budapest hosting the World Athletics Championship last August …
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