Sermons by Tommy Preson Phillips, pastor of Watermark Tampa Church in Tampa Bay, and leading musician in the worship group, Preson Phillips.Watermark Tampa Church is a community who is attempting to live in the path of Jesus. We desire to be servants of the people of Tampa and to live and speak the Gospel. We come together during our Sunday gathering as well as at area house churches throughout the Tampa Bay area each week. Below you will find Pastor Tommy Preson Phillips' sermons from our S ...
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A place where you can have fun thinking deeply about all the big and beautiful questions of life complete with cutaways. Hosts Joseph Holmes and Nathan Clarkson explore subjects of art, faith, philosophy, culture, and more with some of today’s leading and most influential minds and figures. So put your thinking caps and your laughing socks on and come on in!
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Welcome to the Liminal Living Podcast, where we dive deep into the realm of liminal spaces—those transitional phases where uncertainty is our companion. I'm your host and curator of conversations, Dr. Tom Rundel, and it's my pleasure to serve as your guide through these uncharted territories. With a doctoral background in spirituality and leadership from Portland Seminary, my research has centered on the spirituality found in the narratives of liminality in the Bible, but I have expanded my ...
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Is Deconstruction a Good Thing? (With Scot McKnight and Tommy Preson Phillips)
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Many Christians are worried about the phenomenon of "deconstruction". But what is "deconstruction" and is it something we should fear or embrace? Author and scholar Scot McKnight and musician and pastor Tommy Preson Phillips join to discuss their new book on deconstruction "The Invisible Jesus: A Book About Leaving the Church and Looking for Christ…
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S3 E44: Tommy Preson Phillips: Leaving the Church and Looking for Christ
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Take Away Ideas Deconstruction isn’t about losing faith, but about re-centering on Jesus. Doubt and curiosity are essential tools in questioning rigid religious structures. The power dynamics of church leadership need reevaluation; Christ-like leadership centers on humility and service. The shift from religious laws to virtues (like love, peace, an…
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Presence Over Politics | November 10, 2024
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S3 E48: Rob Bell on the Meaning of Everything
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takeaways The journey of life often involves navigating liminal spaces. Emotional transitions can be profound and transformative. Writing is a deeply personal and exploratory process. Names hold significant power in shaping identity. Self-definition is an essential part of personal growth. Grief can be processed in various ways, including observati…
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Should We Vote for the Lesser of Two Evils?
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Do we have a moral obligation to vote for the lesser of two evils? Do we have a moral obligation not to? Joseph Holmes and Nathan Clarkson discuss in the lead up to the American presidential Election. St. Francis advises voting for lesser of two evils, and why: https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/pope-francis-kamala-harris-donald-trump-rcna…
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The Call to be God's Politics in the Neighborhood | November 3, 2024
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Dr. David Fitch on Acts 4:1-7, 29-34De către Pastor Tommy Preson Phillips
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S3 E45: Bradley Jersak: Nonviolent Atonement
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Takeaways Bradley Jersak emphasizes the importance of community in spiritual growth. He reflects on the trauma experienced within his faith journey. The problem of evil is a significant challenge for many believers. Jersak advocates for a nonviolent interpretation of atonement. He believes the cross represents God's love rather than divine violence…
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What Are We Most Afraid Of?
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What are Americans most afraid of? And what does that say about us? Nathan Clarkson and Joseph Holmes discuss. Top ten list for 2024: https://www.chapman.edu/wilkinson/research-centers/babbie-center/survey-american-fears.aspx Conversation around Americans fears: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/science/sociology-fear-uncertainty.html Top ten list…
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One Thousand Years | October 27, 2024
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Pastor Tommy on Revelation 20De către Pastor Tommy Preson Phillips
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S3 E41: Danny Cox: Making Inclusive Faith Spaces
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Takeaways Transparency and clarity are essential in church communities, particularly when it comes to issues like LGBTQ inclusion. Churches should clearly communicate their theological stance and actively work towards creating an inclusive and welcoming environment for all. The concept of covenantal relationships, where individuals are bound togeth…
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Is Witchcraft Harmless? (With Mary Jackson)
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There's a rise in interest and practice of witchcraft among young people. Is that worth being concerned about? We discuss with journalist Mary Jackson. Notes from the show: Witchcraft definition: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/witchcraft Witchcraft history: https://www.britannica.com/topic/witchcraft Mary Jackson's article on rise of wi…
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Pastor Tommy on Revelation 19:1-9De către Pastor Tommy Preson Phillips
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Do Demons Exist? (With Dr. Joy Vaughan)
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Do demons exist? If so, what are they like? Joseph Holmes and Nathan Clarkson welcome New Testament Scholar, author, and demon-expert Dr. Joy Vaughan to help them navigate the world of supernatural evil on this latest episode of spooky month. Further links: Demon definition: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/demon Demon history: https://ww…
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Unfundamentalist Bible Studies: Reinterpreting James Ch 5
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takeaways Tom Rundel reinterprets the Book of James for modern understanding. Suffering is a common experience, not to be glorified. Spiritual bypassing dismisses the reality of suffering. Prayer should be an honest engagement with one's situation. Lament is a significant part of spiritual practice. Community support is crucial for those who are su…
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S3 E42: Matt Tebbe: Politics as Christian Practice
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takeaways The current political and cultural moment in the United States is characterized by the erosion of trust in democracy and the weaponization of fear and anger. Apocalyptic language is used in political discourse to create a sense of urgency and to rally support, but it often hinders productive conversations and solutions. Economic realities…
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Everyone wants to overcome fear. But is fear ever something to embrace rather than reject? Nathan Clarkson and Joseph Holmes discuss in their latest episode - the first of scary thinking month. Links to referenced resources: Fear Definition: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fear Fear is one of our most powerful emotions: https://www.menta…
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Framing Stories | October 6, 2024
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Pastor Tommy on Revelation 16De către Pastor Tommy Preson Phillips
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Unfudamentalist Bible Studies: Reinterpreting James Ch 4
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n this episode of Non-Fundamentalist Bible Studies, Tom Rundel explores the end of chapter three and the beginning of chapter four of the book of James. He emphasizes the importance of understanding wisdom and knowledge in a non-weaponized context, encouraging listeners to seek genuine wisdom through a beautiful manner of living rather than through…
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S3 E40: Bruce Epperly: Homegrown American Mystics
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Takeaways Mystics experience the divine in everyday life and see the holiness in others. Mystics can be both heavenly minded and earthly good, working for peace, justice, and the well-being of all people. Political discourse should involve empathy, understanding, and dialogue, rather than demonization and polarization. Finding common ground and hol…
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Are Science and Faith Compatible? (With Dr. Spencer Klavan)
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Many people feel like they have to choose between science and faith. But do they really? What is the history of science and faith, and when did this supposed conflict start? Joseph Holmes and Nathan Clarkson welcome author and scholar Dr. Spencer Klavan to discuss this topic and Klavan's new book on the subject "Light of the Mind, Light of the Worl…
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An Announcement about Hurricane HeleneDe către Pastor Tommy Preson Phillips
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Church of Laodicea - The Church Like Rome | September 29, 2024
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Pastor Leo on Revelation 3:14-22De către Pastor Tommy Preson Phillips
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Unfundamentalist Bible Studies: Reinterpreting James Ch 3
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The book of James addresses the power of speech and its implications. Teachers in the church are held to a higher standard. Controlling the tongue is crucial for personal and communal integrity. Words can shape perceptions and influence actions. Righteousness is fundamentally linked to justice. Inconsistency in speech reflects deeper issues in the …
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S3 E43: Caleb Campbell: Loving Your Christian Nationalist Neighbors
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Takeaways Caleb's upbringing in a conservative home shaped his early views on faith. His experience with neo-Nazi skinheads led to critical questioning of ideologies. The rise of American Christian nationalism has created a divide in churches. Many church members are influenced by external political narratives. Christian nationalism is a blend of p…
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Is Therapy Only for Mentally Ill People? (With Alyssa Plock)
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Who is therapy for? Is it only people with diagnosed mental illness? Or can anyone benefit? We discuss with mental health advocate Alyssa Plock. Data and references: https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryanrobinson/2021/02/04/47-of-americans-believe-seeking-therapy-is-a-sign-of-weakness/ https://www.scrippsnews.com/health/75-of-americans-feel-health-care…
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But Not Through Me | September 22, 2024
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Pastor Tommy on Revelation 15De către Pastor Tommy Preson Phillips
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Unfundamentalist Bible Studies: Reinterpreting James Ch 2
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Faith without action is dead. The early Christian community emphasized caring for one another's needs. Treating all people equally is important and goes against favoritism. Love for our neighbors and living out the social vision of Jesus is crucial. Find us on the web: https://liminalliving.simplecast.com/ Follow us on Facebook: https://www.faceboo…
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S3 E39: David Gushee: Defending Democracy From its Christian Enemies
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Takeaways Faith can provide an organizing center, meaning, and purpose in life. Gushee's journey of faith involved a conversion experience as a teenager and a broadening of perspectives through studying Christian ethics. Democracy is a system of government that belongs to the people and is based on a constitution and the rule of law. Authoritariani…
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Why do most people work a 9-5? And should we get rid of it? Joseph Holmes and Nathan Clarkson discuss in the latest episode of The Overthinkers. Further reading: History and the origin of the 9-5. https://hbr.org/2021/07/breaking-free-from-a-9-to-5-culture Arguments against 9-5: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2021/07/25/working-9-to-5-is-an…
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Unfundamentalist Bible Studies: Reinterpreting James Ch 1
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Reinterpreting scripture passages can help avoid harmful and wounding interpretations that have been used in a religious and fundamentalist context. Understanding the cultural context in which scripture was written is crucial for interpretation. Every good and perfect gift comes from God, and it is important to recognize and appreciate the goodness…
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S3 E38: Chuck DeGroat: Trauma, Narcissism, Deconstruction, Dark Night of the Soul
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Links Pre-order Chuck's New Book: [click here] Chucks Author Page: [click here] Chuck's Amazon Page: [click here] Takeaways Chuck DeGroat's faith journey was shaped by a mix of embodied spirituality and disorientation due to brokenness in his parents' marriage. He found a broader understanding of faith through the contemplative tradition and the my…
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Is the World Overpopulated or Underpopulated? (With Dr. Jared Pincin)
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Some think the world is getting too many people to sustain the planet. Others warn that we don't have enough kids to care for the old people. Who's right? Joseph Holmes and Nathan Clarkson invite Economist Dr. Jared Pincin to discuss. Info highlighted in episode: World hits 8 billion people: https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2023/11/world-popu…
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The Face Off | September 8, 2024
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Pastor Tommy on Revelation 14De către Pastor Tommy Preson Phillips
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S3 E37: Matt Tebbe: Money, Power, and Abuse in the Church
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Introductions Climbing Mt. Whitney Facing Internal Demons on the Mountain Spiritual Roots in Catholicism Grace in Community & Abuse on Church Staff Abusive Leadership Embraces Power and Causes Trauma Using Your Voice with Clarity and Humility Spiritualizing the Poor is a Hermeneutic Mistake The God of Mammon, Power, Money, and Economy What “Love of…
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Should Christians Get Offended?
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Getting offended is very common today--particularly online. But is being offended off-limits for Christians? Nathan Clarkson and Joseph Holmes discuss. Definition of “Offended”: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/offended Why Christians Shouldn’t Be Offended: https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/blessed-are-the-unoffendable https://www.christianityt…
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The Anti-Christ And The Mark Of The Beast | September 1, 2024
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S3 E36: Randy Woodley: Indigenous Spirituality and Decolonizing Christianity
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Chapters Introductions Cherokee roots My Oppressive Missionary Colonizer Years Colonialism woven into the Christian faith The Violence of Christian Supremacy Conservative politics picks up the torch of colonialism The Problem of Disembodied Theology Shalom and the Failed Western Experiment Decolonizing the Faith Colonial Theology that needs to Go: …
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Is Evolution Biblical? (With Dr. Dru Johnson)
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Christians and Charles Darwin's theory of evolution have often been at odds. But is that conflict justified? Dr. Dru Johnson, Biblical scholar and author of the book "What Hath Darwin to Do with Scripture?", walks Joseph Holmes and Nathan Clarkson through the places where Darwin's work matches with the Biblical narrative--and where it diverges. And…
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Living Between Mary and Pilot | August 25, 2024
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Pastor Leo on John 19:10-16De către Pastor Leo
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S3 E35: Kathy Khang: Finding a Home, Immigration and Power in the Church
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Chapters Introductions Good Coffee Spiritual Roots in the Korean Church in Chicago Renting church space and false hospitality Rethinking Hospitality as the Church Loving Disagreement what it is and is NOT Love is not nice Toxic Positivity The Moving Goalposts of expectation False apostolic authority used to create exclusive dogma What loving your e…
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Is Community Possible Today? (With Houston Coley)
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We all want community today. But is community possible in a modern society that puts up so many barriers to it? Joseph Holmes and Nathan Clarkson are joined by thinker and filmmaker Houston Coley to discuss. Lack of friends today: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/07/well/live/adult-friendships-number.html https://nypost.com/2021/07/27/americans-have…
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House Church Sunday | August 18, 2024
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S3 E34: Anthony Smith: Faith, Race, and Politics
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Chapters Introductions Faith Rooted Organizer Anthony vs Confederate Statue An Ecumenical Exorcism of White Nationalism and Racism An Apocalyptic moment and call Christians call to apocalyptic action Hyper individualism and its damage on society The Gospel and White Jesus made an atheist The Gospel evolve to meet us White Christian Nationalism is a…
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Is AI Dangerous? Nathan Clarkson and Joseph Holmes look at the evidence and discuss. AI Definition: https://www.britannica.com/technology/artificial-intelligence Why AI is Dangerous: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/heres-why-ai-may-be-extremely-dangerous-whether-its-conscious-or-not/ Why Experts Disagree: https://www.vox.com/future-perfe…
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Ecclesiology | August 11, 2024
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Pastor Tommy on The Three Circles.De către Pastor Tommy Preson Phillips
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S3 E33: Chris Green: Dead Answers vs Living Questions
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Chapters Intro Theology and Art Where does art come from? What does art do? Art involves us in the truth Art opens us up to truth Imagination and Faith Sweaty Pentecostalism Knowing more about demons than about God Bonhoeffer A true place to belong Incarnation shows us what God is like Conclusion Find us on the web: https://liminalliving.simplecast…
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Is watching the news necessary to stay informed, or bad for your mental health? Joseph Holmes and Nathan Clarkson discuss. Growing number of people avoiding the news: https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2023/08/01/news-avoid-depressing/ Media confidence reaches new low: https://news.gallup.com/poll/512861/media-confidence-matches-2016-record-low.a…
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What is the Gospel | August 4, 2024
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Pastor Tommy on The GospelDe către Pastor Tommy Preson Phillips
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S3 E31: Matthew J Distefano: The Wisdom of Hobbits for Today
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Key points include: • The unhealthy balance between individual well-being and community demands in evangelical settings. • The symbolic and inspirational aspects of Tolkien’s stories and how they relate to real-life experiences. • The importance of continuing to do good without relying on miraculous interventions. • Reflections on the role of margi…
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For an idea so often discussed and debated, tolerance is a relatively recent virtue. Why did it become so popular? And is it overrated? Nathan Clarkson and Joseph Holmes discuss. Merriam Webster definition of Tolerance: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tolerance History of the virtue of tolerance: https://iep.utm.edu/tolerati/#H2 Popper’s…
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