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The Reformed Libertarians Podcast aims to educate and inspire listeners to intelligently embrace and passionately promote a view of libertarianism as grounded in the Reformed Faith, and informed by a Reformed worldview. Exploring free society from a Reformed perspective, hosts Kerry Baldwin and Gregory Baus discuss culture, society, politics, economics, theology, philosophy, worldview, and more. Follow the show at reformedlibertarians.com and discover how to think about liberty and human flourishing based in the Reformed Faith.
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1 Ep. 22: The Cultural Context Of Politics 29:23
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A discussion of "What Is Culture?," Part 1 of the Reformed Libertarianism Statement. Other episodes are mentioned in which some points from episode 4 are elaborated, and the meaning of subjective sanctification of culture is reiterated. The definition of culture, and why it’s addressed is further explained. The model of reciprocally influencing layers of culture is elaborated, illustrated, and related to the study of historical process. And the promotion of so-called "cultural Christianity" is considered. https://reformedlibertarians.com/022 Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com…

1 Ep. 21: Two Kingdoms and Christian Cultural Activity 42:26
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A discussion of a Reformed Two Kingdoms view, and the possibility of a distinctively Christian view of the believer’s cultural activity according to an orthodox Neo-Calvinism, in contrast with a Scholastic view. Key points from episodes 4 and 19 are summarized, and the Two Kingdoms view being addressed is described. The use of the term Scholasticism is explained against an objection. And a key difference between Neo-Calvinism and a Scholasticized view is variously illustrated. https://reformedlibertarians.com/021 Main Points of Discussion 00:00 Introduction 00:32 Episode description 02:08 Key points from episode 4 on Christian cultural activity 07:09 Key points from episode 19 on religious non-neutrality 09:23 Reformed Two Kingdoms distinctions 13:41 The views of David VanDrunen 18:43 The term Scholasticism as modified Aristotelianism 24:04 Reiteration of key difference between Neo-Calvinist and Scholastic views 25:58 More about VanDrunen’s views 27:52 Religious views of a saltshaker 32:43 The question of logical norms 34:54 Similar to interpreting Scripture 36:20 Religious views of limited civil governance 40:35 Conclusion * Usually we catch these things, but Gregory didn't catch his mispronunciation of philological til later. Additional Resources Episode 4: How Should Christians View Culture and What Are Some Mistaken Views? https://reformedlibertarians.com/004 Episode 19: The Myth Of Religious Neutrality https://reformedlibertarians.com/019 See David VanDrunen’s more scholarly book Natural Law and the Two Kingdoms (2009) https://www.amazon.com/dp/0802864430/ and his more popular-level book Living in God’s Two Kingdoms (2010) https://www.amazon.com/dp/1433514044/ “Five Versions Of Two Kingdoms and Foundations For Christian Cultural Activity” by Gregory Baus https://reformedlibertarians.com/five-versions-of-two-kingdoms-and-foundations-for-christian-cultural-activity/ Info on Meredith G. Kline https://meredithkline.com/ Especially see Kline's book Kingdom Prologue (1993) https://www.amazon.com/dp/1597525642/ Michael Beck’s book Covenant Lord and Cultic Boundary (2023) https://www.amazon.com/dp/1666737577/ The Catholic Encyclopedia (1912) entry on “Scholasticism” https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/13548a.htm See the first two chapters (93 pages) of Herman Dooyeweerd’s Reformation And Scholasticism In Philosophy , Volume 2 (1950) for historical background on the development of Neo-Calvinism and its criticism of Scholastic views. https://vcho.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Reformation-and-Scholasticism-in-Philosophy-A-Vol-5-2.pdf#page=25 For example of a non-Christian’s view of limited civil governance from creational revelation, see Murray Rothbard’s For A New Liberty (1973) https://mises.org/library/book/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto and Ethics Of Liberty (1982) audio: https://mises.org/library/book/ethics-liberty text: https://cdn.mises.org/The%20Ethics%20of%20Liberty%2020191108.pdf The Reformed Libertarians Podcast is a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute: https://libertarianchristians.com and a member of the Christians for Liberty Network: https://christiansforliberty.net Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com…

1 Ep. 20: A Review Of Highlights 46:15
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In a series of highlights from earlier episodes, Kerry and Gregory explain what the Reformed Libertarians Podcast is about, their confessionally Reformed view of Romans 13, what their practical strategy is, how the goal they are working towards is entirely realistic, and how they address a prominent objection raised by, perhaps, most people. https://reformedlibertarians.com/020 Main Points of Discussion 00:00 Start 00:32 Episode description 01:10 First highlight from episode 1: https://reformedlibertarians.com/001 09:56 Second highlight from episode 2: https://reformedlibertarians.com/002 16:12 Third highlight from episode 8: https://reformedlibertarians.com/008 26:33 Fourth highlight from episode 12: https://reformedlibertarians.com/012 37:43 Fifth highlight from episode 14: https://reformedlibertarians.com/014 The Reformed Libertarians Podcast is a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute: https://libertarianchristians.com and a member of the Christians for Liberty Network: https://christiansforliberty.net Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com…

1 BONUS: Replies from David VanDrunen On State Illegitimacy 54:21
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In this bonus episode, we interview Dr. David VanDrunen. We consider his reply on several points to Pastor Taylor Drummond's critical article that we discuss in episode 17. The title of that article is "Fool's Gold?: A libertarian analysis of VanDrunen's account of state legitimacy" and it examines particular arguments in David VanDrunen's book Politics After Christendom . VanDrunen expresses his appreciation for Drummond's article and our episode discussing it, raises questions concerning immoral complicity if the state is taken to be illegitimate, offers some clarification about his (up to this point) not having differentiated monopoly states from non-monopolistic civil governance in his writing, raises questions concerning what sort of consent is normative for the customary legal order's own legitimacy and its authorizing function, raises the question of when abuse or injustice might categorically disqualify one from rightfully possessing authoritative office and its relation to political resistance, and, at the end, responds to our proposal how a fuller, non-aggressionist view of proportionality in the lex talionis of the Noahic Covenant entails a conclusive argument in favor of the exclusively "protectionist" purpose of civil governance law. https://reformedlibertarians.com/bonusC Main Points of Discussion 00:00 Introduction 00:09 Episode description 02:15 Prefatory statements 05:37 The question of immoral complicity 16:30 Clarifying matters of complicity 21:13 The question of civil governance vs. monopoly state 27:55 Distinguishing normativity from de facto (non-)conformity to norms 31:00 The question of legitimizing consent 35:56 Distinguishing compliance under duress (by aggression) 40:45 The question of abuse/tyranny and de-legitimization 45:20 The question of a conclusive protectionist-only view 49:32 Remaining uncertainty about Scriptural “regulative principle” for civil governance 52:29 Closing remarks Additional Resources About David VanDrunen https://www.wscal.edu/faculty-member/david-vandrunen/ – author page at Mongerism https://www.monergism.com/authorsspeakers/david-vandrunen – bib at ResearchGate https://www.researchgate.net/scientific-contributions/David-VanDrunen-2115184386 Episode 17: David VanDrunen’s View Of Civil Government, with Taylor Drummond https://reformedlibertarians.com/017 “Fool’s Gold?: A libertarian analysis of VanDrunen’s account of state legitimacy,” by Taylor Drummond https://libertarianchristians.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/CLR-5-Drummond.pdf Politics After Christendom by David VanDrunen https://www.amazon.com/dp/0310108845/ “The Protectionist Purpose of Law: A Moral Case from the Biblical Covenant with Noah,” by David VanDrunen https://www.pdcnet.org/jsce/content/jsce_2015_0035_0002_0101_0117 Episode 2: What Does Romans 13 Say About Civil Government? https://reformedlibertarians.com/002 Episode 8: The Boetie Option - the peaceful underthrow of the state https://reformedlibertarians.com/008 Episode 14: Does Political Representation Make Sense?, with Gerard Casey https://reformedlibertarians.com/014 Episode 15: Can Christian Civil Government Be Theocratic? https://reformedlibertarians.com/015 Episode 18: Politics And The Church’s Mission: What Should The Church Teach About Civil Government? https://reformedlibertarians.com/018 Audio of Answering 10 Objections to Libertarian Anarchism by Roderick Long https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsUjJ7TOhgk&list=PLwrDNUO5MDu8WYU5oB7l037lvAEjSoPBr&index=13 Replies to this episode from Taylor Drummond https://thearchy.substack.com/p/my-thoughts-on-vandrunens-thoughts The Reformed Libertarians Podcast is a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute: https://libertarianchristians.com and a member of the Christians for Liberty Network: https://christiansforliberty.net Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com…

1 Ep. 19: The Myth Of Religious Neutrality 45:08
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A reading of edited excerpts from the article “On The General Relation Of Religion, Metaphysics, and Science” by Dr Roy A. Clouser, presenting the Neo-Calvinist view of what has been called The Myth Of Religious Neutrality. The predominant Scholastic view of the general relation is summarized, followed by a summary of the Neo-Calvinist, or Reformational view. According to the Neo-Calvinist view, the way in which religious belief guides theories is then summarized, the view of religious belief is further explained, how religious belief within a given metaphysics affects science is further explained, and a prominent objection is answered. https://reformedlibertarians.com/019 Main Points of Discussion 00:00 Introduction 00:32 Episode description 03:29 The Scholastic View 07:46 The Neo-Calvinist (Reformational) View 13:34 Scientific theories guided by a basic view of reality 17:47 A basic view of reality guided by a religious belief 19:02 More about religious belief 27:11 How religious belief within a metaphysics affects science 37:03 Example of atomic theory 40:13 An objection answered Additional Resources About Dr. Roy A. Clouser https://www.royclouser.com https://allofliferedeemed.co.uk/roy-a-clouser/ “On The General Relation Of Religion, Metaphysics, And Science” by Roy Clouser https://tukampendatastore.blob.core.windows.net/neocalvinism/allofliferedeemed/Clouser/Clouser1996-Facets-of-faith-and-Science-ch%203.PDF The Myth Of Religious Neutrality (rev, 2005) by Roy Clouser https://www.amazon.com/dp/0268023662 Introduction to A Commentary on Genesis by John Calvin (1554) https://ccel.org/ccel/calvin/calcom01/calcom01.vi.html Video on the Myth of Religious Neutrality by Roy Clouser https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLUAtso8cBw&list=PLwrDNUO5MDu9Y8kqS66XUSgRaVXbf9M-A&index=3 “Is There A Christian View Of Everything?” by Roy Clouser https://sites.google.com/site/christianviewofeverything “Five Versions Of ‘Two Kingdoms’ and Foundations For Christian Cultural Activity” by Gregory Baus https://reformedlibertarians.com/five-versions-of-two-kingdoms-and-foundations-for-christian-cultural-activity/ 11 videos on Philosophy of Religion by Roy Clouser https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwrDNUO5MDu_XWQBwDFvjTk0Au0-6un3D 32 videos on Introduction to (Reformational) Christian Philosophy by Roy Clouser https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwrDNUO5MDu-T6PEv7K3nfET-yWKoo523 The Reformed Libertarians Podcast is a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute: https://libertarianchristians.com and a member of the Christians for Liberty Network: https://christiansforliberty.net Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com…

1 Ep. 18: Politics and the Church's Mission: What Should the Church Teach About Civil Government? 39:00
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We discuss the teaching mission of the institutional church, its relation to the church’s statements of faith, and what the institutional church must and may not teach about politics on several important points. We talk about the Reformed confessional view of submission to civil governance, the recent failure of some churches in the face of unlawful state dictates, the error of theonomic views, and how a biblically Reformed covenantal hermeneutic informs a correct view of general equity. https://reformedlibertarians.com/018 Main Points of Discussion 00:00 Introduction 00:32 Episode description 01:00 Why are we discussing this? 02:15 What is the church’s teaching mission? 05:07 One way the Reformed confessions are part of the church’s mission 07:34 False teaching about submission to God-ordained civil governance 13:43 Not a matter of political theory 14:53 False teaching of original and so-called “general equity theonomy” 19:28 Proper meaning of general equity 24:30 The Reformed biblical covenantal hermeneutic 30:39 Recap 32:53 Disestablishmentarianism and Biblical criterion of proportional retribution Additional Resources: What Does Romans 13 Say About Civil Government? https://reformedlibertarians.com/002 Why Is The Right Of Resistance Important? https://reformedlibertarians.com/006 Answers to Objections to Reformed Confessional View of Romans 13 https://reformedlibertarians.com/episode/why-isnt-the-state-biblically-justified-resolving-romans-13-objections/ Annotated bibliography of Reformed Political Resistance Theology https://tinyurl.com/RefoPoliResistBib Paper and video presentation of “Theonomy, General Equity, and Libertarianism” by Jonathan McIntosh https://reformedlibertarians.com/theonomy-general-equity-and-libertarianism-by-jonathan-mcintosh Excerpt from “Men In Combat Over The Civil Law: ‘General Equity’ in WCF 19.4” by Peter Wallace and Craig Troxel https://sites.google.com/view/general-equity/ Lecture series on Reformed Covenant Theology in systematic, biblical, and practical perspectives by Lee Irons https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwrDNUO5MDu9WPd6FaReLxZkaK7VO8plE Video explaining the relations between the Abrahamic, Old Mosaic, and New Covenants, by Lee Irons https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_ScAhK-s2s 5 videos explaining the typological works principle in the Old Mosaic Covenant, by Lee Irons https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwrDNUO5MDu-vEf9AeUSZt8UY53E7OYnF The Westminster Confession of Faith (1788) https://opc.org/wcf.html The Belgic Confession of Faith (1958) https://threeforms.org/the-belgic-confession/ Resources on the false teaching of Theonomy - Meredith G. Kline’s article on theocracy https://meredithkline.com/klines-works/articles-and-essays/the-relevance-of-the-theocracy/ - Lee Irons’ article on Theonomy’s Dispensational Hermeneutic https://www.the-highway.com/theonomy-hermeneutic_Irons.html - Lane Tipton’s article on The Eschatology of Hebrews 2:1-4: A Critical Appraisal of the Theonomic Thesis https://kerux.com/doc/1501A1.asp - T. David Gordon’s article on Critique of Theonomy: a Taxonomy https://web.archive.org/web/20200718055717/http://tdgordon.net/theology/theonomy.pdf Can Christian Civil Government Be 'Theocratic'? https://reformedlibertarians.com/015 “Against Civil Establishment Of Religion” by Gregory Baus https://reformedlibertarians.com/against-civil-establishment-of-religion/ The Reformed Libertarians Podcast is a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute: https://libertarianchristians.com and a member of the Christians for Liberty Network: https://christiansforliberty.net Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com…

1 Ep. 17: David VanDrunen’s View Of Civil Government, with Taylor Drummond 50:24
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An interview with Pastor Taylor Drummond about his article “Fool’s Gold?: A libertarian analysis of VanDrunen’s account of state legitimacy,” which appreciatively, but critically, examines arguments in the book Politics After Christendom by Dr. David VanDrunen. Pastor Drummond introduces himself and recounts how he became a confessional, Calvinistic Baptist, and a libertarian-anarchist. He speaks about how VanDrunen’s biblical arguments for the legitimacy of the state fail his own standard for justifying the state. Drummond also explains how VanDrunen’s theoretical argument is at odds with his own view of law, justice, and rights, and is in tension with many of his economic and theological insights. https://reformedlibertarians.com/017 Main Points Of Discussion 00:00 Introduction 00:32 Episode description 01:50 About Pastor Drummond 06:54 VanDrunen’s brief biblical arguments and Drummond’s response 17:22 Monopoly, Noahic covenant, and negative natural rights 24:26 VanDrunen’s view of customary legal order 27:50 Drummond’s response on law and rights 34:44 Need for clearly distinguishing just and unjust coercion 38:56 Protectionism, sin, politicization, and inefficiency 47:29 Concluding thoughts Additional Resources Article discussed: “Fool’s Gold?: A libertarian analysis of VanDrunen’s account of state legitimacy,” by Taylor Drummond: https://libertarianchristians.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/CLR-5-Drummond.pdf Politics After Christendom by David VanDrunen: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0310108845/ Taylor Drummond congregation: Grace Community Church, Allentown PA https://gracecommunityallentown.org/ Politics substack: https://thearchy.substack.com/ Theology site: https://servantofthesovereign.wordpress.com/ Other books mentioned: The Road To Serfdom by Friedrich Hayek: https://mises.org/library/book/road-serfdom The Law by Frederic Bastiat: https://mises.org/library/book/law Foundations of Economics: A Christian View by Shawn Ritenour: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1556357249/ The Conservative Mind by Russell Kirk: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0895261715/ For A New Liberty by Murray Rothbard: https://mises.org/library/book/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto Christian Libertarian Review call for papers 2024: https://libertarianchristians.com/2024/02/03/call-for-papers-2024-volume/ The Reformed Libertarians Podcast is a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute: https://libertarianchristians.com and a member of the Christians for Liberty Network: https://christiansforliberty.net Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com…

1 Ep. 16: The Five Elements and Epochs of The Kingdom Of God 34:05
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An introduction to a Reformed view of the Kingdom of God in its 5 elements and its 5 covenantally-administered epochs, culminating in the Kingdom’s definitive consummation in the New Creation. The relation between Christian cultural activity and the Kingdom of God is also clarified. https://reformedlibertarians.com/016 Main Points of Discussion 00:00 Introduction 00:32 Episode description 01:03 Kingdom of God as the New Creation and central to Bible and all reality 03:25 5 “Royal” Elements Ruler, Realm, Reign, those Ruled, Regulation by Covenant 05:31 Covenant in Scripture as oath-commitment Covenants as administering Kingdom of God 07:20 5 Epochs 1. Probation/Proffered 2. Promised 3. Prefigured 4. Present-Inauguration 5. Parousia-Consummation & See " The Grid ": https://upper-register.com/papers/kline_grid.pdf 10:22 Contrary to postmil, premil, and heresy* [see note below] of popular “Evangelical” Dispensationalism 12:15 1st Epoch: Probation – the Covenant of Works “Eschatology Precedes Soteriology” 17:10 2nd Epoch: Promised – the Protevangelium (Gen. 3.15) and Abrahamic Covenant The Seed is Christ, the Land is New Creation, the Blessing is Salvation by grace alone, thru faith alone, in Christ alone 19:24 3rd Epoch: Prefigured – the Old Mosaic Covenant Temporary and typological theocracy Suspension of normal operations of “common grace” Non-free market and coercive punishment of non-aggressive immorality Typological principle of works (covenant blessings & curses) 24:03 4th Epoch: Present-Inauguration – the New Covenant The gospel, salvation accomplished in history Crucial distinction between (a) “subjective recognition of Christ’s reign” involving the implications of Christian beliefs for all of life -vs.- (b) “objective realm” of Christ’s Kingdom as the new heavens&earth, presently and uniquely manifest as the institutional church (not as common culture or society) The gospel, church, and presently-inaugurated Kingdom are NOT “political” 30:23 5th Epoch: Parousia-Consummation – the everlasting, full realization of the New Covenant Flesh & blood (pre-glorified human nature) cannot inherit the Kingdom, and so requires eschatological transformation, glorified incorruptibility *Note Differing forms of Dispensationalism (heretical or not) have been used by some to justify the worst of the United States government’s murderous, warmongering foreign policy. One of Dispensationalism’s erroneous beliefs (in all its forms) is that after the first advent of Christ, God’s promise to give the physical territory of Canaan to the physical descendants of Israel remains in effect. A doctrinal “heresy” can be understood as a teaching that denies some point of orthodox creedal teaching. The heretical teaching we had in mind (and should have specified) is the belief that prior to Christ’s first advent, or during the era of the Law (or Old Covenant), salvation was not by grace through faith in Christ, the promised Savior. Not all forms of Dispensationalism teach this, however. For further discussion of Dispensationalism, see this lecture on The New Covenant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynilaJANdoM Additional Resources: The Majesty On High , by Steven M. Baugh https://www.amazon.com/dp/1544985584/ - Books At A Glance summary https://www.booksataglance.com/book-reviews/the-majesty-on-high-introduction-to-the-kingdom-of-god-in-the-new-testament-by-s-m-baugh/ Audio from Baugh on the Kingdom of God - Reformed Forum, Christ The Center Podcast ep.635 w/Baugh on The Majesty On High https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUnRUG-eGHI - WSCal Office Hours Podcast w/Baugh on The Majesty On High https://www.wscal.edu/devotion/kingdom-of-god/ - Lecture by Baugh on Kingdom as Consummation https://www.wscal.edu/devotion/thy-kingdom-come/ - Conference Presentation by Baugh on Kingdom in New Testament https://www.wscal.edu/devotion/the-kingdom-in-the-new-testament/ - Devotional by Baugh on Kingdom in John’s writings https://www.wscal.edu/devotion/a-survey-of-the-kingdom-of-god-in-johns-writings/ “The New Creation, the Kingdom of God, and the Church,” by Steven M. Baugh https://opc.org/nh.html?article_id=1128 Spring 2024 Friday Night Academy on Covenant Theology in systematic, biblical, and practical perspectives by Pastor Charles Lee Irons of Santa Clarita URC https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwrDNUO5MDu9WPd6FaReLxZkaK7VO8plE Sacred Bond: Covenant Theology Explored (2nd ed), by Brown and Keele https://reformedfellowship.net/products/sacred-bond-covenant-theology-explored-second-edition Reformed Covenant Theology: A Systematic Introduction , by Harrison Perkins https://www.heritagebooks.org/products/reformed-covenant-theology-a-systematic-introduction-perkins.html video explaining The Biblical-Theological “Grid” graphic of the Kingdom Of God in 5 Epochs, by Lee Irons https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu7rbuOseZ8 [ PDF of The Grid : https://upper-register.com/papers/kline_grid.pdf ] video explaining Adam’s Probation and the Priority of Eschatology, by Lee Irons https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_NJwB_f1P4 “The Deeper (Reformed) Protestant Conception,” by Lane Tipton https://reformedforum.org/what-is-the-deeper-protestant-conception/ The Reformed View of Christian Cultural Activity and Mistaken Views https://reformedlibertarians.com/004 Reformed Biblical-Theological Foundations for Christian Cultural Activity, by Gregory Baus https://honest2blog.blogspot.com/2022/01/reformed-biblical-theological.html About Theocracy in New Covenant Era https://reformedlibertarians.com/015 The Conquest of Canaan, episode 14 of the Biblical Anarchy Podcast by Jacob Winograd w/Gregory Baus https://reformedlibertarians.com/ep...…

1 BONUS: Should Christian Libertarians Reject Biblical Inerrancy? 12:39
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A reading of Kerry Baldwin’s article on biblical inerrancy, which discusses a blog post by Pete Enns in which he says why he believes the Bible has errors, and no one is obligated to obey Romans 13. Resources for a better (non-biblicist) view of inerrancy and a better view of Romans 13 are recommended. The hosts also give an update about new episodes. https://reformedlibertarians.com/bonusB 00:00 Start 00:09 Update 00:49 Intro to Kerry's article 01:46 Enns wrong on Romans 13 04:42 Enns confuses biblical inerrancy with biblicism 07:03 A non-biblicist view of inerrancy 08:35 A better view of Romans 13 10:00 Covenantal sensitivity 11:49 Conclusion Additional Resources: Does Biblical Inerrancy Threaten Libertarianism? by Kerry Baldwin https://reformedlibertarians.com/does-biblical-inerrancy-threaten-libertarianism/ Episode 14 of The Reformed Libertarians Podcast, Does Political Representation Make Sense?, with Gerard Casey https://reformedlibertarians.com/014 Note on the danger of biblicism by Terry Johnson and Shane Lems https://reformedreader.wordpress.com/2017/06/22/the-danger-of-biblicism/ Different views of biblical inerrancy by Kam Weng Ng https://krisispraxis.com/archives/2016/06/inerrancy-of-the-bible-defined-and-defended-part-1/ The Framework Interpretation of Creation Days by Lee Irons https://upper-register.com/papers/framework_interpretation.html The Truthfulness of Scripture by Michael Horton https://www.modernreformation.org/resources/articles/the-truthfulness-of-scripture The Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy https://www.alliancenet.org/international-council-on-biblical-inerrancy Well-versed Inerrancy by Kevin Vanhoozer https://henrycenter.tiu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/2013April_Vanhoozer-inerrancy.pdf Video presentation on well-versed inerrancy by Kevin Vanhoozer https://vimeo.com/79158043 Can The Bible Contain Errors? by Greg Beale https://faculty.wts.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/2011-Spring-Inspired.pdf Audio presentation on inerrancy by Greg Beale http://media1.wts.edu/media/audio/gkbeale_lecture_copyright.mp3 Review of Enns' book against inerrancy by Greg Beale https://www.etsjets.org/files/JETS-PDFs/49/49-2/JETS_49-2_287-312_Beale.pdf The Erosion Of Inerrancy by Greg Beale https://amazon.com/dp/1433502038 Romans 13: A Reformed View by Gregory Baus https://libertarianchristians.com/2021/11/24/romans-13-and-stateless-civil-governance-a-reformed-view/ Episode 2 of The Reformed Libertarians Podcast, What Does Romans 13 Say About Civil Government? https://reformedlibertarians.com/002 Episode 42 of The Biblical Anarchy Podcast, Why Isn't the State Biblically Justified? Resolving Romans 13 Objections, with Gregory Baus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBbFFBwMaLQ Episode 14 of The Biblical Anarchy Podcast, Does The Conquest of Canaan Conflict with Anarchism? with Gregory Baus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3KFqcQlPuA Reformed Libertarians Podcast hosts' appearances elsewhere https://reformedlibertarians.com/appearances/ Also see a highly-relevant article on a pattern of turning ex-vangelical, especially as among women, by Kerry Baldwin https://mereliberty.com/theology/pattern-of-deconstruction-women/ The Reformed Libertarians Podcast is a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute and a member of the Christians for Liberty Network Audio Production by Podsworth Media .…
Summary - Reformed Libertarians Podcast Announcement We're taking a short break for summer, but listen for some other information and plans for the Reformed Libertarian podcast when we get back. https://reformedlibertarians.com/bonusA Additional Resources https://reformedlibertarians.com/about-our-logo/ https://reformedlibertarians.com/reformed-libertarianism-statement/ https://reformedlibertarians.com/articles/ https://reformedlibertarians.com/resources/ https://reformedlibertarians.com/signup/ The Reformed Libertarians Podcast is a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute: https://libertarianchristians.com and a member of the Christians for Liberty Network: https://christiansforliberty.net Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com…

1 Ep. 15: Can Christian Civil Government Be "Theocratic"? 29:14
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A discussion of whether a Reformed Christian view of civil governance is compatible with theocracy. We explain how the term "theocratic" has been used, and two key elements of a theocratic view (namely, the monopoly state and civil establishment of religion) that must be rejected in a genuinely Christian view of civil governance. We also touch on how some who support a theocratic view go wrong in their eschatology. https://reformedlibertarians.com/015/ 00:00 Start 00:32 Episode description 01:27 About the history of the term https://www.encyclopedia.com/social-sciences-and-law/political-science-and-government/political-science-terms-and-concepts/theocracy 02:22 All of life, and so all politics, is ultimately guided by central religious commitments 04:45 The objectionable sense of "theocratic" is not entailed by the universality of central religious commitments and their ultimate guidance of all of life 05:28 Two key elements of theocracy are "a monopoly state" and "civil establishment of religion"; Monopoly explained 07:41 Just and unjust uses of coercion; The obligation of non-aggression; The illegitimacy of all states 12:13 A simple analogy 15:12 Establishmentarianism explained https://reformedlibertarians.com/against-civil-establishment-of-religion/ 16:46 The unique, symbolic, and temporary (now obsolete) old Mosaic covenant theocracy involved suspension of the common grace order; It was a temporary symbolic-intrusion of final judgment and the kingdom of God, now inaugurated in the new covenant institutional church, and yet to be consummated in the New Heavens and Earth 19:59 While the old covenant was in effect, it was not a violation of non-aggression https://reformedlibertarians.com/002 ; Now, in the new covenant era, the normal operation of the common grace order has resumed; This entails prohibition of establishmentarianism and monopoly, enacting either is antichrist 22:03 Genuinely limited governance, required by God's ultimate sovereignty, according to a consistent Christian view, entails non-monopoly and non-establishment 24:17 Recap 25:10 The under-realization of inaugurated eschatology in the new covenant by postmillennialism and so-called optimism that often accompanies a theocratic view Additional Resources More about the temporary suspension of the normal operation of common grace and the eschatological-intrusion within the old covenant theocracy : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3KFqcQlPuA More about sphere sovereignty : Episode 09 - https://reformedlibertarians.com/009 Episode 12 - https://reformedlibertarians.com/012 More about the underrealization of inaugurated eschatology in the new covenant as held by a postmil view (Gaffin refers to postmil's de-eschatologizing ) : https://www.newhopefairfax.org/files/Gaffin%20Theonomy%20and%20Eschatology.pdf The Reformed Libertarians Podcast is a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute: https://libertarianchristians.com/ and a member of the Christians for Liberty Network: https://christiansforliberty.net Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com…

1 Ep. 14: Does Political Representation Make Sense?, with Gerard Casey 45:41
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An interview with Dr. Gerard Casey about his article "The Indefensibility of Political Representation." Dr. Casey introduces himself and recounts how he became a libertarian anarchist. He speaks about the idea of legitimate command and various options proposed to justify the state's supposed authority. He summarizes some of his examination of political representation from his article. He also talks about what real democracy was like, and closes with a reflection on caring for the poor in a free society. https://reformedlibertarians.com/014/ 00:00 Start 00:32 Episode description Article discussed (25 min read), "The Indefensibility of Political Representation" by Gerard Casey : https://mises.org/library/indefensibility-political-representation Audio presentation (18 mins) : https://mises.org/library/which-be-master-indefensibility-political-representation 01:51 About Dr. Casey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerard_Casey_(philosopher) Academia page: https://ucd.academia.edu/GerardNCasey Interviews by Dr. Casey: https://www.youtube.com/@caseyinconversation6380 Twitter: https://twitter.com/Casey5122dark 05:18 Libertarian conversion The Theory of Money and Credit by Ludwig von Mises : https://mises.org/library/theory-money-and-credit 10:07 Principles of legitimate command 15:11 Options proposed to justify the state The main option in the West today is the idea of "representative" democracy which is equated with self-governance 17:54 Hannah Pitkin's analysis and the basic incoherence of political representation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanna_Fenichel_Pitkin The Concept of Representation by Hanna Pitkin : https://www.amazon.com/dp/0520021568?tag=kerrybaldwin-20 25:44 Inevitable bureaucratic obstacles BBC2's "Yes Minister" : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes_Minister 29:46 Actual democracy and sortition Against Elections by David Van Reybrouck : https://www.amazon.com/dp/1847924220?tag=kerrybaldwin-20 Jury Nullification: https://fija.org 37:24 "Let The Poor Starve?" by Gerard Casey https://reformedlibertarians.com/let-the-poor-starve-gerard-casey/ How Govt "Solved" The Healthcare Crisis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFoXyFmmGBQ&list=PLwrDNUO5MDu8WYU5oB7l037lvAEjSoPBr&index=7 Books by Dr. Gerard Casey : (2012) Libertarian Anarchy : https://www.amazon.com/dp/1441144676?tag=kerrybaldwin-20 (2013) Murray Rothbard : https://www.amazon.com/dp/1441100792?tag=kerrybaldwin-20 (2017) Freedom's Progress? - a history of political thought : https://www.amazon.com/dp/1845409426?tag=kerrybaldwin-20 (2019) ZAP - free speech and tolerance in light of the Zero Aggression Principle : https://www.amazon.com/dp/1788360176?tag=kerrybaldwin-20 (2020) After #MeToo : https://www.amazon.com/dp/1788360273?tag=kerrybaldwin-20 (2021) Hidden Agender : https://www.amazon.com/dp/1788360583?tag=kerrybaldwin-20 "Meddling In Other Men's Affairs: The Case For Anarchy" by Gerard Casey https://reformedlibertarians.com/meddling-in-other-mens-affairs-the-case-for-anarchy-by-gerard-casey/ Also see Episode 7: Can Libertarians Be Conservatives? : https://reformedlibertarians.com/007 The Reformed Libertarians Podcast is a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute: https://libertarianchristians.com/ and a member of the Christians for Liberty Network: https://christiansforliberty.net Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com…

1 Ep. 13: What Do We Mean By "Scripture Alone"? 40:28
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A reading of the essay "What Do We Mean By Sola Scriptura ?" by W. Robert Godfrey, which focuses on explaining some key features of the Protestant principle or doctrine of Sola Scriptura (that is, Scripture Alone). Godfrey defines the principle, discusses several Bible passages that teach it, and answers 4 basic objections. https://reformedlibertarians.com/013/ 00:00 Start 00:32 Episode description Article read: https://reformedlibertarians.com/mean-by-sola-scriptura-robert-godfrey/ It appears as the first chapter in the book Sola Scriptura : https://www.amazon.com/dp/1567693334?tag=kerrybaldwin-20 02:07 Introduction Sola Scriptura is one of the two main issues that separates Protestants from non-Protestants, along with Sola Fide (that is, justification by faith alone). Book mentioned Justification By Faith ALONE : https://www.amazon.com/dp/187761193X?tag=kerrybaldwin-20 04:30 Definition and some passages that teach it "Scripture alone is our ultimate religious authority [ie, infallible rule]... [and] all things necessary for salvation, concerning faith and life, are taught in the Bible clearly enough for the ordinary believer to find it there and understand." For a more elaborate statement see the Westminster Confession of Faith chapter 1 : https://opc.org/wcf.html#Chapter_01 20.2 : https://opc.org/wcf.html#Chapter_20 21.1 : https://opc.org/wcf.html#Chapter_21 31.2-3 : https://opc.org/wcf.html#Chapter_31 14:44 The sufficiency of the Bible as God's Word 15:37 Different senses of the term "tradition" 19:16 Tradition vs. the Bible 21:43 Tradition vs. Tradition 24:44 Recognition of the "canon", or the specific writings that constitute the Bible Book mentioned The Structure of Biblical Authority by Meredith G. Kline : https://www.amazon.com/dp/1579100694?tag=kerrybaldwin-20 33:03 Unity in the interpretation of the Bible Additional Resources WSCal Office Hours podcast, with Bob Godfrey on Sola Scriptura (26 minutes) https://wscal.edu/resource-center/whats-in-a-name-sola-scriptura Why God Gave Us A Book , booklet by Gene Edward Veith https://www.amazon.com/dp/159638378X?tag=kerrybaldwin-20 What Is The Bible? , booklet by Guy Prentiss Waters https://www.amazon.com/dp/1596387114?tag=kerrybaldwin-20 Scripture Alone: The Evangelical Doctrine , by R.C. Sproul https://www.amazon.com/dp/1596389540?tag=kerrybaldwin-20 Zondervan 5 Solas Series https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KG9V455?tag=kerrybaldwin-20 - Zaspel's summaries of 5 Zondervan books included in this course on the Five Solas from the Gospel Coalition https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/course/the-five-solas/ The Cambridge Declaration (on the 5 Solas) https://www.alliancenet.org/cambridge-declaration More resources on the Five Solas https://www.monergism.com/search?keywords=five%20solas Just And Sinner Podcast with Jordan Cooper discussing Martin Chemnitz on Sola Scriptura and Tradition - Part 1 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kisWf3I528U - Part 2 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxN4WxFOhYg - Part 3 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7s6TVAKQNk On the canon, also see - Redemptive History and the New Testament Scriptures , by Herman Ridderbos https://www.amazon.com/dp/0875524168?tag=kerrybaldwin-20 - Canon Revisited , by Michael J. Kruger https://www.amazon.com/dp/1433505002?tag=kerrybaldwin-20 - The Question of Canon , by Michael J. Kruger https://www.amazon.com/dp/0830840311?tag=kerrybaldwin-20 See also several videos from Truth Unites with Gavin Ortlund - Sola Scriptura Defended https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlF57ewhXAI - Response To Critics Of Sola Scriptura https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdIYoXQGYmw - Augustine Affirmed Sola Scriptura https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6ZAa0gNMvE - More On Augustine And Sola Scriptura https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbTPHSv5Rtc - Review of Sola Scriptura Debate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-O18bhDPGc The Reformed Libertarians Podcast is a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute: https://libertarianchristians.com and a member of the Christians for Liberty Network: https://christiansforliberty.net Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com…

1 Ep. 12: Is Civil Governance Without The State Plausible? 24:32
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A discussion of the main points of Kerry Baldwin’s article on the plausibility of stateless civil governance and the common difficulty in imagining such a society. We talk about factors that may contribute to the failure of imagination such as the mere-exposure effect, the Overton window, and plausibility structures. Also mentioned are several examples of historically existing non-monopolistic civil governance. Spontaneous order is explained in terms of a consistent sphere sovereignty, and we provide resources on how civil governance can be practically and realistically provided without the state. https://reformedlibertarians.com/012/ 00:00 Start 00:32 Episode description Article discussed https://libertarianchristians.com/2018/05/07/plausibility-of-a-stateless-society/ 01:18 Previous episodes in series 1. Law and order, and the question of legitimacy https://reformedlibertarians.com/003 2. Human sinfulness, and the question of necessity https://reformedlibertarians.com/005 3. Economics and social hierarchy, and the question of inevitability https://reformedlibertarians.com/009 01:57 Main points of article on failure of imagination, and the question of the plausibility of stateless (non-monopolistic) civil governance 03:10 Reasons for difficulty in imagining non-monopolistic civil governance Bias towards the familiar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mere-exposure_effect 05:21 The Overton window The range of thinkable ideas in a society https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window 08:58 Plausibility structures Social realities that reinforce or help a belief seem true https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plausibility_structure 10:14 What about the roads? https://mises.org/wire/government-road-management-there-better-way 10:42 Historical examples of non-monopolistic civil governance Previously mentioned: Ancient Ireland: https://mises.org/library/private-law-emerald-isle Law Merchant: https://fee.org/articles/the-law-merchant-and-international-trade/ Not-so-wild West: https://mises.org/library/not-so-wild-wild-west Other examples: Quaker Pennsylvania https://mises.org/library/pennsylvanias-anarchist-experiment-1681-1690 Medieval Iceland https://mises.org/library/medieval-iceland-and-absence-government Zomia (south Asian highlands) text: https://mises.org/library/art-not-being-governed audio: https://mises.org/library/james-c-scott-art-not-being-governed [ index for The Libertarian Tradition podcast: https://mises.org/library/libertarian-tradition?page=2 ] 13:01 Division of labor makes stateless society more plausible https://mises.org/wire/division-labor-clarified 13:46 Somalia is better-off without a state https://mises.org/library/rule-law-without-state 14:58 recap on Sphere Sovereignty https://www.academia.edu/32356017/Dooyeweerds_Societal_Sphere_Sovereignty_2017_revision_ Reformed Libertarianism Statement https://reformedlibertarians.com/reformed-libertarianism-statement/ 18:55 Polycentric emergent societal order Popular-level article https://fee.org/articles/spontaneous-order/ Video essay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQhkrYqA7S4&list=PLwrDNUO5MDu8WYU5oB7l037lvAEjSoPBr&index=9 Bibliographic essay https://oll.libertyfund.org/page/the-tradition-of-spontaneous-order-a-bibliographical-essay-by-norman-barry Example of the price system https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkPGfTEZ_r4 22:31 Practical outlines for how non-monopolist civil governance can be provided Chaos Theory , by Robert Murphy text: https://mises.org/library/chaos-theory-two-essays-market-anarchy-0 audio: https://mises.org/library/chaos-theory-two-essays-market-anarchy-audio The Machinery of Freedom , by David Freidman video summary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o&list=PLwrDNUO5MDu8WYU5oB7l037lvAEjSoPBr&index=11 2nd edition free [pdf]: http://www.daviddfriedman.com/The_Machinery_of_Freedom_.pdf 3rd edition: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1507785607?tag=kerrybaldwin-20 The Reformed Libertarians Podcast is a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute: https://libertarianchristians.com and a member of the Christians for Liberty Network: https://christiansforliberty.net Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com…

1 Ep. 11: The Truth About the Great Depression, with Larry Reed 48:46
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An interview with Lawrence W. Reed, President emeritus of The Foundation for Economic Education, about his booklet, Great Myths of the Great Depression . We talk about the Progressive Era as the context for the government policies that brought about the Great Depression, and discuss several commonly misunderstood elements that caused or perpetuated the Great Depression. We conclude with a note about personal character. https://reformedlibertarians.com/011/ 00:00 Start 00:32 Episode description Book discussed: https://fee.org/resources/great-myths-of-the-great-depression/ 01:51 About Mr. Reed https://www.lawrencewreed.com/about Books by Mr. Reed https://www.lawrencewreed.com/books 03:07 Mr. Reed's background and faith 07:13 Jesus is NOT a socialist https://www.amazon.com/dp/1610171608?tag=kerrybaldwin-20 09:56 The Progressive Era 15:34 Progressive population control The eugenics movement, by Bradley Thomas https://fee.org/articles/the-progressive-ideas-that-fueled-america-s-eugenics-movement/ 18:27 Monetary policy and the Fed https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLALopHfWkFlGvgxFXosWmjzSGw95IFa1t 24:21 Tariffs, income tax, and stifling trade https://fee.org/articles/its-more-important-to-be-american-than-to-buy-american/ 29:06 New Deal disasters https://fee.org/articles/fdr-campaigned-on-fiscal-restraint-in-1932-he-delivered-just-the-opposite/ 34:32 Government causes inflation https://fee.org/articles/35-government-is-an-inflation-fighter/ 36:21 Wagner Act disasters 41:12 Minimum wage https://fee.org/articles/38-the-minimum-wage-helps-the-poor/ 44:59 The importance of personal character https://fee.org/articles/character-liberty-and-economics Further Resources The Progressive Era , by Murray Rothbard https://mises.org/library/progressive-era-0 America's Great Depression , by Murray Rothbard https://mises.org/library/americas-great-depression What Has Government Done To Our Money, by Murray Rothbard https://mises.org/library/what-has-government-done-our-money The Case Against The Fed , by Murray Rothbard https://mises.org/library/case-against-fed-0 The Great Depression, by Hans Sennholz https://mises.org/library/great-depression Herbert Hoover and the Great Depression, by Tom Woods audio: https://mises.org/library/14-herbert-hoover-and-great-depression Truth about the Great Depression, by Thomas DiLorenzo audio: https://mises.org/library/9-truth-about-great-depression The Reformed Libertarians Podcast is a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute: https://libertarianchristians.com and a member of the Christians for Liberty Network: https://christiansforliberty.net Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com…
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