Stepping into the Unknown Powerfully: A Mantra from Mother Mary (with Lisa Espinosa)

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In this episode of Welcome to Channeling, host Gwen Juvenal sits down with spiritual guide Lisa Espinosa for an enlightening journey into the power and grace found in stepping into the unknown. Together, they explore how we can approach life’s uncertainties and challenges with a sense of adventure, deep trust, and compassionate curiosity. The episode centers around themes of self-compassion, spiritual maturity, and transformation, particularly when it comes to embracing both the highs and lows of life with openness. Gwen and Lisa highlight a mantra given by Mother Mary that can serve as a guiding light for anyone feeling overwhelmed or uncertain: “Turn this into something beautiful.”

Opening the episode with an invitation to breathe and relax, Gwen and Lisa encourage listeners to release their fears of the unknown, offering gentle reflections on how life’s mystery can be a beautiful, even exhilarating adventure. Gwen shares the feeling of support from spiritual guides and invites listeners to tune into this subtle but powerful presence. She acknowledges the collective energy of feminine guides watching over them, creating a sense of communal warmth and protection as they prepare to explore the episode’s deeper themes.

Gwen celebrates Lisa’s recent birthday, which Lisa sees as a powerful, symbolic gateway into a new phase of life. This significant transition becomes a foundational element in their conversation as Lisa, who will soon become a grandmother, describes feeling the essence of “elder medicine”—an energy that combines joy, wisdom, and a sense of gentle strength unique to grandmothers. The two reflect on this transition into a new type of role, with Lisa noting that unlike motherhood, this energy doesn’t involve the direct responsibility of carrying life into the world, but rather, holding space for life’s unfolding in a supportive and nurturing way. Gwen, who is also approaching this phase of her own life, resonates deeply, and they marvel at the beauty and privilege of witnessing this stage of life as a type of soul expansion.

Mantra of Transformation: “Turn This into Something Beautiful”

Lisa introduces the mantra “Turn this into something beautiful,” a phrase given to her by Mother Mary during a personal time of hardship, as a way to transmute pain and fear into wisdom and beauty. This mantra, they explain, is more than a prayer or wish; it is a call to activate an inner alchemy that allows us to see beyond our current struggles. Lisa shares that when she was going through a painful divorce, she clung to this mantra as a lifeline, a reminder that beauty could emerge from even the most challenging circumstances. The mantra empowers individuals to allow themselves to feel their emotions fully, without being controlled by them, offering a path to reclaim their power and move forward with grace.

Gwen adds her own experiences, sharing how she has used this mantra to shift from old stories and patterns into a new way of living that emphasizes healing without constant struggle. As they discuss, it becomes clear that both Gwen and Lisa have reached a point in their spiritual journeys where transformation no longer needs to be painful but can occur with ease and compassion. This, they suggest, is a hallmark of spiritual maturity—a realization that growth doesn’t have to be hard-earned through suffering but can instead flow naturally when we’re ready to release resistance.

Learning to Hold and Release Emotions Gently

Much of their discussion centers around learning to hold space for difficult emotions without letting them define us. Lisa and Gwen reflect on how old wounds and stories can resurface, sometimes unexpectedly, but that allowing these feelings to move through without identifying with them is a powerful practice. They emphasize the importance of cultivating compassion for oneself during these moments, seeing them as opportunities for growth rather than setbacks. Gwen describes a recent experience in which she was able to observe her emotions with compassion, acknowledging them as part of her past but choosing not to let them dictate her present reality.

Lisa speaks to this approach in her spiritual practice, particularly as she works with Divine Mother energies, such as Mother Mary, Kwan Yin, and Isis. She shares how connecting with these ascended masters has helped her hold space for challenging emotions like fear and grief, grounding herself in love even during moments of deep vulnerability. For Lisa, this process involves recognizing that she is far more than her immediate experiences or emotions. She is part of a larger, divine essence—a perspective that offers both strength and solace.

Channeling Messages from Mother Mary and the Divine Feminine

In the latter half of the episode, Gwen channels a profound message from Mother Mary, conveying that each of us has within us the strength and grace to move through life’s difficulties with love. Mother Mary reminds listeners of the beauty of the heart’s “sacred rose,” encouraging them to cultivate this inner flowering that emits a fragrance of love, drawing goodness, peace, and abundance toward them like a blooming flower attracts bees. This “heart fragrance,” she explains, is an expression of our soul’s unique gifts, and as we nurture it, we naturally draw in the people, experiences, and energies we need to thrive.

Mother Mary’s message underscores the idea that when we open our hearts fully, we extend a silent invitation to others, encouraging them to also open and heal. By embodying love, each person becomes a beacon for those around them. Gwen and Lisa discuss how this perspective frees them from needing to control or fix external situations; rather, they are invited to trust that as they align with their own inner truths, the universe will meet them with the support they need.

Embracing Uncertainty and Becoming a Source of Love

The conversation moves toward a powerful acknowledgment of the uncertainties in life and how, with spiritual maturity, we can learn to find joy and presence even when things don’t unfold as expected. Lisa shares how she has grown to embrace uncertainty, reminding herself of the divine love and guidance that holds her through these times. Gwen resonates with this sentiment, pointing out that stepping into the unknown is one of the great spiritual teachings, a sacred initiation where the heart learns to expand beyond what the mind can grasp.

They discuss the importance of being fully present with one’s emotions, particularly the painful ones, without needing to resolve them immediately. For Lisa, this journey has been guided by Mother Mary’s constant, loving presence, and the wisdom that as she accepts herself in all her facets, she is better equipped to support others in their own healing. Gwen echoes this, emphasizing that everyone’s path to spiritual growth involves learning to love all parts of themselves and to honor the unique lessons life brings them.

In closing, Gwen encourages listeners to adopt the mantra “Turn this into something beautiful” as a tool for empowerment, to use it whenever they feel overwhelmed or challenged. Lisa adds that as more people connect with this mantra and intention, it creates a collective energy, a “code of alchemizing action” that can elevate the consciousness of everyone who uses it.

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